Troops obeying orders... Citizens obeying gun laws

[Fangs]

I'll just leave this here (sorry if it's been posted before):

[longtooth]

Yep. We saw that as a kid. Not all schools would show pics of the Holicost.

[Heartland Patriot]

I watched a program called "The World At War" with my dad when I was a kid back in the '70s. The episode of the Holocaust left an intense and lasting impression on me that almost brings me to tears whenever I think about it, all these years later. Years down the road I learned what Stalin did to the Ukrainians, known as the Holodomor. And what the Ottomans did to the Armenians, and what Pol Pot did to his own people...and there are too many other examples. THAT is what happens to a disarmed people. I have NEVER put ANYTHING past any group of politicians to do whatever they CAN GET AWAY WITH...those that say, "But it can't happen here" are simply NAIVE, or they are in on it...

[Texas Dan Mosby]

I watched a program called "The World At War" with my dad when I was a kid back in the '70s. The episode of the Holocaust left an intense and lasting impression on me that almost brings me to tears whenever I think about it, all these years later. Years down the road I learned what Stalin did to the Ukrainians, known as the Holodomor. And what the Ottomans did to the Armenians, and what Pol Pot did to his own people...and there are too many other examples. THAT is what happens to a disarmed people. I have NEVER put ANYTHING past any group of politicians to do whatever they CAN GET AWAY WITH...those that say, "But it can't happen here" are simply NAIVE, or they are in on it...

The ironic thing about those folks who are "in on it" is that AFTER complete power is assumed, more often than not, the guns are then turned on THEM.

[snatchel]

Scary. I saw what Saddam did to the Kurds first hand....

I also went to the Holocaust museum while I was in D.C.. If anyone ever goes up there, I highly suggest you hit that museum up, you will not be disappointed. They did a fantastic job of making it extremely realistic... and it's a horrifying kind of beauty. T

[Oldgringo]

I watched a program called "The World At War" with my dad when I was a kid back in the '70s. The episode of the Holocaust left an intense and lasting impression on me that almost brings me to tears whenever I think about it, all these years later. Years down the road I learned what Stalin did to the Ukrainians, known as the Holodomor. And what the Ottomans did to the Armenians, and what Pol Pot did to his own people...and there are too many other examples. THAT is what happens to a disarmed people. I have NEVER put ANYTHING past any group of politicians to do whatever they CAN GET AWAY WITH...those that say, "But it can't happen here" are simply NAIVE, or they are in on it...

Did you intentionally not mention what the relatively new white settlers did to the native American Indians? It's name is genocide and it's been going on since the dawn of time.

[C-dub]

I would really like to believe that could not happen here. Again.

[The Annoyed Man]

I watched a program called "The World At War" with my dad when I was a kid back in the '70s. The episode of the Holocaust left an intense and lasting impression on me that almost brings me to tears whenever I think about it, all these years later. Years down the road I learned what Stalin did to the Ukrainians, known as the Holodomor. And what the Ottomans did to the Armenians, and what Pol Pot did to his own people...and there are too many other examples. THAT is what happens to a disarmed people. I have NEVER put ANYTHING past any group of politicians to do whatever they CAN GET AWAY WITH...those that say, "But it can't happen here" are simply NAIVE, or they are in on it...

Did you intentionally not mention what the relatively new white settlers did to the native American Indians? It's name is genocide and it's been going on since the dawn of time.

Not arguing with the fact of it, nor am I condoning it. That said, HP's comments were in response to a thread about soldiers following orders, executing people who had willingly disarmed themselves. To the best of my knowledge, Native Americans were not legally disarmed by the government in DC. Just ask George Armstrong Culture. He was fighting an unjust war, on an unjust mission, but his opponents were armed with repeating rifles purchased on the open market which Custer's own troopers did not have access to. Sitting Bull's warriors not only outnumbered the 7th Cavalry, they were better armed by far than the Army was too.

[WildBill]

I also went to the Holocaust museum while I was in D.C.. If anyone ever goes up there, I highly suggest you hit that museum up, you will not be disappointed. They did a fantastic job of making it extremely realistic... and it's a horrifying kind of beauty. T

I have not had the chance to visit the museum in D.C., but for the locals there is a Holocaust Museum in Houston. I spent an afternoon there last year and it was well worth the visit.

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[The Mad Moderate]

I take issue with you boiling down the holocaust to gun control.

[C-dub]

I take issue with you boiling down the holocaust to gun control.

It might not have made any difference in the end, but it certainly made it easier for the Nazis.

[Heartland Patriot]

I watched a program called "The World At War" with my dad when I was a kid back in the '70s. The episode of the Holocaust left an intense and lasting impression on me that almost brings me to tears whenever I think about it, all these years later. Years down the road I learned what Stalin did to the Ukrainians, known as the Holodomor. And what the Ottomans did to the Armenians, and what Pol Pot did to his own people...and there are too many other examples. THAT is what happens to a disarmed people. I have NEVER put ANYTHING past any group of politicians to do whatever they CAN GET AWAY WITH...those that say, "But it can't happen here" are simply NAIVE, or they are in on it...

Did you intentionally not mention what the relatively new white settlers did to the native American Indians? It's name is genocide and it's been going on since the dawn of time.

Not arguing with the fact of it, nor am I condoning it. That said, HP's comments were in response to a thread about soldiers following orders, executing people who had willingly disarmed themselves. To the best of my knowledge, Native Americans were not legally disarmed by the government in DC. Just ask George Armstrong Culture. He was fighting an unjust war, on an unjust mission, but his opponents were armed with repeating rifles purchased on the open market which Custer's own troopers did not have access to. Sitting Bull's warriors not only outnumbered the 7th Cavalry, they were better armed by far than the Army was too.

I was thinking of how to respond, but TAM, you covered it pretty well. Thanks.

[Heartland Patriot]

I take issue with you boiling down the holocaust to gun control.

It might not have made any difference in the end, but it certainly made it easier for the Nazis.

I also remember, from the program "The World At War", how a few Jewish folks in the Warsaw ghetto held out for quite some time against a force much larger than themselves. They only had a FEW firearms, and some improvised weapons. They did indeed pay a terrible price, but they tied up some German forces that would have been able to be used elsewhere. The Holocaust was much more than gun control, indeed...but it was certainly FACILITATED by gun control. Hard to fight back, when you have nothing to fight with...

[there is no cake]

I watched a program called "The World At War" with my dad when I was a kid back in the '70s. The episode of the Holocaust left an intense and lasting impression on me that almost brings me to tears whenever I think about it, all these years later. Years down the road I learned what Stalin did to the Ukrainians, known as the Holodomor. And what the Ottomans did to the Armenians, and what Pol Pot did to his own people...and there are too many other examples. THAT is what happens to a disarmed people. I have NEVER put ANYTHING past any group of politicians to do whatever they CAN GET AWAY WITH...those that say, "But it can't happen here" are simply NAIVE, or they are in on it...

There are two reasons politicians support gun control. They're criminally stupid or they actually want the government to massacre civilians. Those are the only two reasons ever in the history of mankind but sometimes both apply.

[E.Marquez]

So you post that, with no context to suggest what direction or position your taking.. .Pardon me for feeling it is a direct insult to this nations Military,,, And a great way to start a US vs Them mentality. By the way, I'm the them.....

If your going to enrage the Nations military forces preemptively, and accuse and liken us to a nation military long ago that did something horrible, Well, heck,, since you already have that mind set... I have nothing to gain by protecting you passively should the need arise, nor stop me from allowing what ever should become of you in such a situation. The contempt for your Nations military in that one post is obvious.. or maybe not,, but appearances would make it seem so.