Back door amnesty for illegal aliens....

[Oldgringo]

Anybody with an ounce of common sense can see entitlements are destroying this country, and not only financially.

However, the politicians are like alcoholics who won't admit they have a problem. It seems they need to hit rock bottom before things can get better. Maybe it's time for Atlas to shrug and allow them to hit the bottom while saving ourselves from being crushed. Time to stop enabling their addiction.

The biggest entitlements being Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, and corporate welfare. Do oil companies and agriculture businesses need a subsidy? It is terrible.

Toorop is apparently pretty young. If he had been forced to contribute to Social Security and Medicare for a half century, he would probably consider his monthly SS check to be a pretty poor return on mandatory "investments" rather than an "entitlement".

[Kabong30]

LOL, good point! Considering I probably won't be getting anything I think of it as a tax.

[Toorop]

Anybody with an ounce of common sense can see entitlements are destroying this country, and not only financially.

However, the politicians are like alcoholics who won't admit they have a problem. It seems they need to hit rock bottom before things can get better. Maybe it's time for Atlas to shrug and allow them to hit the bottom while saving ourselves from being crushed. Time to stop enabling their addiction.

The biggest entitlements being Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, and corporate welfare. Do oil companies and agriculture businesses need a subsidy? It is terrible.

Toorop is apparently pretty young. If he had been forced to contribute to Social Security and Medicare for a half century, he would probably consider his monthly SS check to be a pretty poor return on mandatory "investments" rather than an "entitlement".

It is socialism, is it not? The facts are that you are getting more back then you put in. And that is not right. These programs are socialism and we should not have to pay for the people who chose not to save money in order to pay for their own healthcare. WHy did you not save money for your retirement? Put money into a 401K and mutual funds? Why not invest? Why should we have to pay for you because you were too shortsighted to save for a rainy day and plan for the future?

I am sorry but these programs are socialism. Why don't you ask the church to pay for your healthcare? It is not my problem if people can't afford it and it isn't right for Uncle Sam to steal my money to support welfare queens and parasitic people who are victims to their own lack of foresight.

Some good reading about the hypocrisy:

Link 1.

Link 2.

[Toorop]

LOL, good point! Considering I probably won't be getting anything I think of it as a tax.

Think of it as theft and redistribution of your wealth. Now it hurts? And sadly so many Republicans go along with this socialism because they are hypocrites and don't really care about the economic woes of the country. They are more concerned with other issues like contraception and abortion as well as running other peoples lives and gladly accept the government graft.

[The Annoyed Man]

Anybody with an ounce of common sense can see entitlements are destroying this country, and not only financially.

However, the politicians are like alcoholics who won't admit they have a problem. It seems they need to hit rock bottom before things can get better. Maybe it's time for Atlas to shrug and allow them to hit the bottom while saving ourselves from being crushed. Time to stop enabling their addiction.

The biggest entitlements being Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, and corporate welfare. Do oil companies and agriculture businesses need a subsidy? It is terrible.

Toorop is apparently pretty young. If he had been forced to contribute to Social Security and Medicare for a half century, he would probably consider his monthly SS check to be a pretty poor return on mandatory "investments" rather than an "entitlement".

It is socialism, is it not? The facts are that you are getting more back then you put in. And that is not right. These programs are socialism and we should not have to pay for the people who chose not to save money in order to pay for their own healthcare. WHy did you not save money for your retirement? Put money into a 401K and mutual funds? Why not invest? Why should we have to pay for you because you were too shortsighted to save for a rainy day and plan for the future?

I am sorry but these programs are socialism. Why don't you ask the church to pay for your healthcare? It is not my problem if people can't afford it and it isn't right for Uncle Sam to steal my money to support welfare queens and parasitic people who are victims to their own lack of foresight.

Some good reading about the hypocrisy:

Link 1.

Link 2.

You obviously haven't been on the planet long enough. For those of use who have been in the work force longer than you've been alive.....we've been paying into Social Security against our wills for decades. That's the money we would have invested toward our own retirements if it had not be taken from us by force. If we get more back than we put in, consider it interest. Take the unearned sanctimony down the road and sell it somewhere else. I'm not buying any of it.

[Toorop]

Anybody with an ounce of common sense can see entitlements are destroying this country, and not only financially.

However, the politicians are like alcoholics who won't admit they have a problem. It seems they need to hit rock bottom before things can get better. Maybe it's time for Atlas to shrug and allow them to hit the bottom while saving ourselves from being crushed. Time to stop enabling their addiction.

The biggest entitlements being Medicare/Medicaid, Social Security, and corporate welfare. Do oil companies and agriculture businesses need a subsidy? It is terrible.

Toorop is apparently pretty young. If he had been forced to contribute to Social Security and Medicare for a half century, he would probably consider his monthly SS check to be a pretty poor return on mandatory "investments" rather than an "entitlement".

It is socialism, is it not? The facts are that you are getting more back then you put in. And that is not right. These programs are socialism and we should not have to pay for the people who chose not to save money in order to pay for their own healthcare. WHy did you not save money for your retirement? Put money into a 401K and mutual funds? Why not invest? Why should we have to pay for you because you were too shortsighted to save for a rainy day and plan for the future?

I am sorry but these programs are socialism. Why don't you ask the church to pay for your healthcare? It is not my problem if people can't afford it and it isn't right for Uncle Sam to steal my money to support welfare queens and parasitic people who are victims to their own lack of foresight.

Some good reading about the hypocrisy:

Link 1.

Link 2.

You obviously haven't been on the planet long enough. For those of use who have been in the work force longer than you've been alive.....we've been paying into Social Security against our wills for decades. That's the money we would have invested toward our own retirements if it had not be taken from us by force. If we get more back than we put in, consider it interest. Take the unearned sanctimony down the road and sell it somewhere else. I'm not buying any of it.

Then why didnt you vote politicians in to end it? Why not stand up and say our generation will make the sacrifice and not receive it? Why not make a sacrifice? Why do so many on the right oppose cuts to these programs? Why not just bite the bullet for the future of our country?

[Beiruty]

So the parents of every "Anchor Baby" get waivers...
Sure... That'll discourage them from crossing the border.

You need to stop the free education for non-US born who are illegally living in US. Check Dallas City and count how many Mexico born kid are being educated here in Dallas, at the dime of tax payers. Houston would be the same too.
Oh, they get a free Medicaid only if they were born here in US. But parent do not have to pay for it. Zero, NADA! They can get from Great State of Texas food money up to $190 per month or so as a bonus.

[sjfcontrol]

Then why didnt you vote politicians in to end it? Why not stand up and say our generation will make the sacrifice and not receive it? Why not make a sacrifice? Why do so many on the right oppose cuts to these programs? Why not just bite the bullet for the future of our country?

Why are you volunteering us? Why don't YOU vote in politicians to end it. Why don't YOU stand up and say YOUR generation will make the sacrifice and not receive it? We were made promises, that progressively got weaker and weaker, while the forced payments got bigger and bigger. Change the game for yourself, not us that have already been forced to pay the price.

[Oldgringo]

Then why didnt you vote politicians in to end it? Why not stand up and say our generation will make the sacrifice and not receive it? Why not make a sacrifice? Why do so many on the right oppose cuts to these programs? Why not just bite the bullet for the future of our country?

Why are you volunteering us? Why don't YOU vote in politicians to end it. Why don't YOU stand up and say YOUR generation will make the sacrifice and not receive it? We were made promises, that progressively got weaker and weaker, while the forced payments got bigger and bigger. Change the game for yourself, not us that have already been forced to pay the price.

Don't waste you time or your breath with this adolescent.

His idea of entitlements doesn't include his free room and board, tuition paid by mommy and daddy, daddy's credit card or the car that daddy and mommy bought him when he turned 16. He might grow up and face reality or he may not?

[The Annoyed Man]

Then why didnt you vote politicians in to end it? Why not stand up and say our generation will make the sacrifice and not receive it? Why not make a sacrifice? Why do so many on the right oppose cuts to these programs? Why not just bite the bullet for the future of our country?

I'll be glad to.....as soon as you promise to deposit an amount equal to that which I will lose directly into my bank account. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is, bite the bullet for the future of the country—and vote for the Republican nominee? BTW, you have no clue as to how I voted all these years. I spent most of those decades in the political wilderness of California, where there are far fewer political choices than there are here in Texas. That said, I voted for politicians who would give YOU the legal right to take your social security money out of the system and invest it while you're still young enough to do something about it. We all know how that worked out. I'm a few months away from 60, and your suggestion to me this late in my life, not having had a legal alternative, is to take a bullet for the future of my country? Thank God for you we're not related. I'd cut you out of my will.

[VMI77]

Its really easy to fix this illegal alien problem. Cut out the freebies to these folks via their "anchor babies" and the vast majority of them will self-deport when they realize they can't make it on their own. The few who stay will be easy to absorb and/or deal with...and please, don't jump all over me about citizens being those born here...I'm obviously not a legislator and don't make the laws...I'm just stating my opinion about what will induce a mass migration back OUT of our country of folks who shouldn't have been here in the first place. America is a land of immigrants and needs immigrants...but they need to stand in line and do it the right way, wherever they come from is beside the point.

The problem is, it will take a Constitutional amendment, and that requires a 2/3 majority plus ratification of 2/3 of the States. That's not going to happen in a country that elects Barack Obama. There would be an all out media propaganda campaign labeling anyone supporting such an amendment a racist. There would be daily sob stories about the plight of families torn apart and heart-warming stories about successful immigrants.

[Dave2]

There would be daily sob stories about the plight of families torn apart and heart-warming stories about successful immigrants.

Immigrants working within the system and staying here legally warm my heart as well. The sob stories could just as easily be about parents who commit any jail-worthy crime.

(Comments directed towards the hypothetical media backlash, not VMI77)

[Toorop]

Then why didnt you vote politicians in to end it? Why not stand up and say our generation will make the sacrifice and not receive it? Why not make a sacrifice? Why do so many on the right oppose cuts to these programs? Why not just bite the bullet for the future of our country?

I'll be glad to.....as soon as you promise to deposit an amount equal to that which I will lose directly into my bank account. Why don't you put your money where your mouth is, bite the bullet for the future of the country—and vote for the Republican nominee? BTW, you have no clue as to how I voted all these years. I spent most of those decades in the political wilderness of California, where there are far fewer political choices than there are here in Texas. That said, I voted for politicians who would give YOU the legal right to take your social security money out of the system and invest it while you're still young enough to do something about it. We all know how that worked out. I'm a few months away from 60, and your suggestion to me this late in my life, not having had a legal alternative, is to take a bullet for the future of my country? Thank God for you we're not related. I'd cut you out of my will.

Why don't you guys step up and make the decision to not take the loss? Our generation has already taken the loss to pay for your generations mistakes and entitlements. Why should the future generations have to suffer for your mistakes? I am just wondering why your generation just doesn't right it off as a loss and why you guys don't have to make sacrifices like my generation, which is bearing the brunt of the current economic situation. Why didn't you prepare and save money? Why didn't you guys work hard to overthrow the yoke of socialism as we are trying to do now? Why didn't you guys campaign on ending Medicare/Medicaid and Social security in the 70s and 80s? And why do you not have the guts to stand up and say I won't take their blood money and I will pay into it but I won't take it and be the example for us younger generations to follow? Whose fault is it you were in California? Is it mine or anyone else's? I am sorry but just because you choose to be so socialist doesn't mean I have to be. So please don't ask for my money. And you want your money back, well ask the government to put that deposit into your bank account. And tell your parents that they need to put four times as much back into the government coffers so that they will have paid what they stole from us because the average was $4.00 for every $1.00 they put in.

Herman Cain said it best.

As he said, it is your fault your not rich, don't blame anybody else. Blame Yo'self!

[Keith B]

Why don't you guys step up and make the decision to not take the loss? Our generation has already taken the loss to pay for your generations mistakes and entitlements. Why should the future generations have to suffer for your mistakes? I am just wondering why your generation just doesn't right it off as a loss and why you guys don't have to make sacrifices like my generation, which is bearing the brunt of the current economic situation. Why didn't you prepare and save money? Why didn't you guys work hard to overthrow the yoke of socialism as we are trying to do now? Why didn't you guys campaign on ending Medicare/Medicaid and Social security in the 70s and 80s? And why do you not have the guts to stand up and say I won't take their blood money and I will pay into it but I won't take it and be the example for us younger generations to follow? Whose fault is it you were in California? Is it mine or anyone else's? I am sorry but just because you choose to be so socialist doesn't mean I have to be. So please don't ask for my money. And you want your money back, well ask the government to put that deposit into your bank account. And tell your parents that they need to put four times as much back into the government coffers so that they will have paid what they stole from us because the average was $4.00 for every $1.00 they put in.

Herman Cain said it best.

As he said, it is your fault your not rich, don't blame anybody else. Blame Yo'self!

So are you are willing to put your money into the government like I have for the past 35+ years and risk not seeing a penny of it? You say you want Obama, but his vision is just more socialism. You call us soscialists? Get real, you're doing nothing but promoting Socialism and Obama will do nothing but drain us dry. That is the whole problem with socialists, you want to tell us how we should be spending OUR money. I guarantee I have paid more into Social Security over my life in the workforce than you will probably see total in your first 5-10 years of employment. If I had been offered a choice to put that portion of my money somewhere other than into the government sinkhole, I would have done so, managed it myself and still had it plus the gains to retire on.

You are young person barely out of college who still hasn't even set a career choice. You thought maybe you would apply for the LAPD or Chicago PD. Apparently that didn't pan out, so then you decided you might apply to UNLV and get a criminal justice or hotel management degree (boy, there is a big difference.) Not sure you even understand what's a realistic goal and what is not. Well, let me tell you, until you get a LOT more whiskers and have contributed to society and the government coffers like most of us here who have been in the workforce for 30+ years, don't even think you know how to tell us what we should be doing with our money. Your generation is NOT bearing the brunt of anything. My generation has been doing that for 40 years and is STILL supporting your generation.

So, why don't you open your eyes, take a hard look at the real world and realize that this country is going down the tubes under a socialist leader. We need to get back on our feet, be able to work for OURSELVES and quit feeding those that only want 'Obama Bucks' handed to them. Once you have spent a few years in the real world working, then come back to me and tell me how I should spend my money.

[VMI77]

There would be daily sob stories about the plight of families torn apart and heart-warming stories about successful immigrants.

Immigrants working within the system and staying here legally warm my heart as well. The sob stories could just as easily be about parents who commit any jail-worthy crime.

(Comments directed towards the hypothetical media backlash, not VMI77)

I agree...there are a lot of good immigrants, from whatever country. In fact, I'd say that our country would benefit greatly by immigration if we could exchange some of our native born American dead weight with honest immigrants willing to work for a living.