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I'm planning on driving to New York in May to hear my children sing at the Lincoln Center. Believe me, if this wasn't such a big and prestigious deal, the trip would not even be considered. But it is what it is and I'm going.

The only states between there and here without reciprocity are also states that have basically outlawed handguns all together; those states being New Jersey and of course, the big apple. I'm going around Maryland.

6 days on the road without my handgun of course is not an option.

I was wondering if any of you land travelers have ever locked up your pistol at a bus station someplace and then retrieved it on your way back. There's a Greyhound bus station in Easton Pennsylvania which is right on the New Jersey border. Seems reasonable to me but I don't know how secure those things are. I also don't know if there is a time limit on how long I can keep a locker occupied. I know I can call Greyhound and find out but I was wondering first if anyone has done anything like this and might know of some gotchas that I haven't thought about.

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I'd rather find a PA gunsmith. Leave it with him to be cleaned and then pick it up on your way back home. Not sure however, if he is legally allowed to transfer the gun back to you, being an out-of-state resident.

I think the days of greyhound bus lockers are long gone in this post-911 world.
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Jumping Frog wrote:I'd rather find a PA gunsmith. Leave it with him to be cleaned and then pick it up on your way back home. Not sure however, if he is legally allowed to transfer the gun back to you, being an out-of-state resident.

I think the days of greyhound bus lockers are long gone in this post-911 world.
I can't remember when the last time was that I saw a rentable locker in an airport. I'm sure they disapeared in bus stations at about the same time.
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Jumping Frog wrote:I'd rather find a PA gunsmith. Leave it with him to be cleaned and then pick it up on your way back home. Not sure however, if he is legally allowed to transfer the gun back to you, being an out-of-state resident.

I think the days of greyhound bus lockers are long gone in this post-911 world.
There is no 4473 transfer if it's the original owner picking up.

From ATF FAQ:
Q: Is an ATF Form 4473 required when a gunsmith returns a repaired firearm?
No, provided the firearm is returned to the person from whom it was received.

[27 CFR 478.124(a)]
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Jumping Frog wrote:I'd rather find a PA gunsmith. Leave it with him to be cleaned and then pick it up on your way back home. Not sure however, if he is legally allowed to transfer the gun back to you, being an out-of-state resident.

I think the days of greyhound bus lockers are long gone in this post-911 world.
Get a safe-deposit box in PA.
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...I vote for the gunsmith...totally legal and secure...
...Greyhound doesn't allow us to carry on the bus...if they "found out" what was in the locker, I'd bet they'd call the police...just to make their point... http://www.greyhound.com/en/docs/greyho ... s_list.pdf.." onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;.

...what a wonderful thing your children have given to you...I'm sure you're proud...have a wonderful trip...
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OldCannon wrote:
Jumping Frog wrote:I'd rather find a PA gunsmith. Leave it with him to be cleaned and then pick it up on your way back home. Not sure however, if he is legally allowed to transfer the gun back to you, being an out-of-state resident.

I think the days of greyhound bus lockers are long gone in this post-911 world.
There is no 4473 transfer if it's the original owner picking up.

From ATF FAQ:
Q: Is an ATF Form 4473 required when a gunsmith returns a repaired firearm?
No, provided the firearm is returned to the person from whom it was received.

[27 CFR 478.124(a)]
No 4473 but it must be entered into the gunsmith's bound book as an acquisition if he keeps it overnight, and then log the disposition when its returned.
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Thank for all the info. I did find a gunsmith in the town where I'm crossing into NJ.

With the time I'm over there, a trigger job is just a bit more than a weeks worth of storage so it's gonna work out fine.
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Glad you found a workable solution. Enjoy your trip!
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Well done!

Let's hope the trigger-job gunsmith doesn't share the same first name as the new Master's champion, Bubba Watson.
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Congratulations to your children. Have a safe trip.
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New York Review.

Lots of people. Lots to do. Central Park is an amazing stretch of greenery in a concrete jungle. The hot dogs are hot, the ice cream is cold, and Central Park seems to be very safe; much more so than the average downtown Houston park.

However, if you're in a wheelchair, stay at home. I brought my 82 year old mom along so she could see her grandkids sing at a Lincoln Center Concert. She's not wheelchair bound but is not as spry as she once was. We took the chair just so she wouldn't have to rush along. BUT, subways have no wheelchair access outside of Grand Central. Many of the elevators they do have are so full of urine and puke odor that it's very hard not to be forced to add to the bouquet. For all it's liberal correctness, if any other major city in this country was as ADA unfriendly as New York, it would be shut down by the ADA cops in no time. Even Avery Fisher Hall where the kids sang had no seats carved out for wheelchairs.

Not really what I expected.

Thanks to my cousin Mark for putting us up and playing 42 with us until late onto the night. Mark makes the best BBQ brisket outside of the Texas border. Of course he's a transplant so it's to be expected. (42 is a really cool "old school" domino game that many in my family are hooked on)

Driving through the Appalachian mountains was a never ending cycle of one beautiful vista after the next. Finding out that the Pennsilvania turnpike was a toll road was a bummer until I found out they only charge about .10 per mile which is doable. I'm used to the Houston toll system which is about $1 per mile. The turnpike is very well maintained with rest stations every 50 miles or so and each one has a Starbucks coffee shop. My wife is hooked on Starbucks so that was nice. And yes, a cuppa Starbucks in Houston tastes the exact same as a cuppa Starbucks in Kentucky, Tennessee, the Virginias and even New York. I guess they figured out a way to filter the water properly.

I recommend driving across the country if you ever need to travel and have the time. The scenery and the people we met along the way is worth the few days it takes. Flying someplace is like riding an elevator; we get on in one place and get off on another. How boring is that?

I took my pistol but left it with a Gunsmith in Easton Pennsilvania. http://www.waltersgunsmithingllc.com Walter did a trigger job and lightened up the slide release a bit for me. I picked it up on the way back and the work he did was superb. If anyone is ever travelling up to "No-Gun-Land", I recommend going this rout.

But one sign really did stand out on the trip home and was one that I was very happy to see:
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Welcome home. Glad you made it safe and sound.
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