Nancy Genovese

[wgoforth]

Since this happened in 2009, I assumed it had been discussed here, but couldn't find any reference using the search. The trial is upcoming from this horrible incident, which, if even half true is horrid.
Woman arrested for taking pictures and legally having gun....
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[sjfcontrol]

Scary story, and Gestapo tactics. I do have an issue with the story, however...

Who the heck wanders around with $13,000 in cash on them? Taking pictures, visiting a shooting range, all with that kind of cash? Who pays for tuition, or any high-value transaction with cash? If necessary, cashier's checks would be preferred from both ends of the transaction. It just doesn't pass the smell test. I also note this was written by her lawyers.

But it's still a frightening story.

[RottenApple]

Who the heck wanders around with $13,000 in cash on them?

Doesn't matter. It's not illegal.

Taking pictures, visiting a shooting range, all with that kind of cash?

Doesn't matter. It's not illegal. Besides, it's easy to see how she could have gone to the range, stopped at the bank, and on the way home stopped to take a picture.

Who pays for tuition, or any high-value transaction with cash? If necessary, cashier's checks would be preferred from both ends of the transaction.

Obviously not. She preferred to use cash. And I can guarantee you that the school wasn't complaining any.

I also note this was written by her lawyers.

So? Their job is to advocate for their client.

But it's still a frightening story.

Agreed.

[RPBrown]

Scary story, and Gestapo tactics. I do have an issue with the story, however...

Who the heck wanders around with $13,000 in cash on them? Taking pictures, visiting a shooting range, all with that kind of cash? Who pays for tuition, or any high-value transaction with cash? If necessary, cashier's checks would be preferred from both ends of the transaction. It just doesn't pass the smell test. I also note this was written by her lawyers.

But it's still a frightening story.

Last I heard, cash is still accepted as legal tender. I have had larges sums of cash in hand (or pocket actually) a few times. Paid cash for one of my motorcycles a couple of months ago.

[sjfcontrol]

Scary story, and Gestapo tactics. I do have an issue with the story, however...

Who the heck wanders around with $13,000 in cash on them? Taking pictures, visiting a shooting range, all with that kind of cash? Who pays for tuition, or any high-value transaction with cash? If necessary, cashier's checks would be preferred from both ends of the transaction. It just doesn't pass the smell test. I also note this was written by her lawyers.

But it's still a frightening story.

Last I heard, cash is still accepted as legal tender. I have had larges sums of cash in hand (or pocket actually) a few times. Paid cash for one of my motorcycles a couple of months ago.

There's no argument that carrying large quantities of cash is not illegal (as long as you're not leaving the country without declaring it) -- it's just stupid. So stupid, that it raises questions.

[gdanaher]

There is more to the untold story. Yes, it appears everything she did was legal, and everything the police did wasn't. I gather she lives in the area? That she isn't just visiting? After all, the police claim that they had told her previously to stay away from the airport, right? So, she could be taking pictures of the signage any time she chose. If you or I had a bunch of cash in the car, and were in route to make payment for tuition or whatever else you can spend cash on, legally, would you be stopping to take pictures? Really? Something here smells, and perhaps the cops could smell it as well but couldn't put their fingers on it. Police know the rules and need to act within them, but I suspect this gal's hands are not clean.

[wgoforth]

Scary story, and Gestapo tactics. I do have an issue with the story, however...

Who the heck wanders around with $13,000 in cash on them? Taking pictures, visiting a shooting range, all with that kind of cash? Who pays for tuition, or any high-value transaction with cash? If necessary, cashier's checks would be preferred from both ends of the transaction. It just doesn't pass the smell test. I also note this was written by her lawyers.

But it's still a frightening story.

And you are correct. It does appear she is a big Glenn Beck/conspiracy believer (I am peripherally) so she may be the kind that doesn't trust banks. But either way, none of that illegal. And yes written by her lawyers, but the only other stories I found concerning her were by the authorities that had an equally unbelievable other extreme of the story... like claiming she had a high powered assault rifle in her front seat. Yup.... unloaded and locked in its case. So that side has no credibility either. If only half her story is true, it is pretty amazing.

[sjfcontrol]

Scary story, and Gestapo tactics. I do have an issue with the story, however...

Who the heck wanders around with $13,000 in cash on them? Taking pictures, visiting a shooting range, all with that kind of cash? Who pays for tuition, or any high-value transaction with cash? If necessary, cashier's checks would be preferred from both ends of the transaction. It just doesn't pass the smell test. I also note this was written by her lawyers.

But it's still a frightening story.

And you are correct. It does appear she is a big Glenn Beck/conspiracy believer (I am peripherally) so she may be the kind that doesn't trust banks. But either way, none of that illegal. And yes written by her lawyers, but the only other stories I found concerning her were by the authorities that had an equally unbelievable other extreme of the story... like claiming she had a high powered assault rifle in her front seat. Yup.... unloaded and locked in its case. So that side has no credibility either. If only half her story is true, it is pretty amazing.

I agree it's an amazing story -- but I'll point out (again) I didn't say anything about carrying cash being illegal.

[wgoforth]

There is more to the untold story. Yes, it appears everything she did was legal, and everything the police did wasn't. I gather she lives in the area? That she isn't just visiting? After all, the police claim that they had told her previously to stay away from the airport, right? So, she could be taking pictures of the signage any time she chose. If you or I had a bunch of cash in the car, and were in route to make payment for tuition or whatever else you can spend cash on, legally, would you be stopping to take pictures? Really? Something here smells, and perhaps the cops could smell it as well but couldn't put their fingers on it. Police know the rules and need to act within them, but I suspect this gal's hands are not clean.

The authorities do claim she was told that before...and no one else can confirm and there is nothing in record that says such. She denies it and they affirm it. If it aint in writing, it didn't happen would be my take. The claim is this was a new exhibit of the shell of a helicopter that she was going to put on her own Support our Troops page.

[gdanaher]

OK, my point was that she had probably been there before, could have taken pictures before, or would be driving by later and could take pictures then. I carry concealed in Texas because I don't trust everyone to be honest and thoughtful. Anyone who thinks otherwise is a naive fool. The same applies in the Northeast. If you have cash in the car would you subject yourself to the possibility of a robbery if you could avoid it? The woman pulled off a public thoroughfare where there is traffic, and thieves, to take pictures. She could take pictures when she has lunch money in her pocket, not 13 grand. With that kind of money, not trusting banks, I'm going to drive to the school, plunk it down, get a receipt, and then take a breath. No, she was up to something. Cops were wrong, but she was doing something......

Edit:
According to:
http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/genovese.asp" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

she was fearful that FEMA was operating or might be operatingconcentration camps at airports. Read the whole thing. Yep, she had issues.

[sjfcontrol]

On further thought, there are other oddities, too. I presume the car was impounded, and the contents audited/Logged? I can't believe any law enforcement agency would just leave an unsecured car by the side of the road, contents unprotected. And there must be procedures to protect high-value contents, such as cash, from loss while impounded.

But even stranger, when the car was recovered, $5,300 was missing?? Really?? So somebody in the story is enough of a crook to steal $5,300, but honest enough to leave $7,700 sitting "on the table"? Weird, if true.

[wgoforth]

So what if she was trying to see if there was a FEMA camp there? And I don't know she was or wasn't. But here is the law firm explaining some of the stories going around about the case http://www.murthalawfirm.com/comments-n ... ovese-case" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm certainly not suggesting she didn't have some possible conspiratorial issues, but this kind of action feeds the conspiracy theories even more.

[wgoforth]

The bungling here of the city attorney certainly doesn't give them much credibility. Listen how angry the councilmen got with their attorney dropping the ball on it.

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[couzin]

I just don't know... The more I read the other reports about this incident - more I think Ms Genovese may have a screw loose. Probably the truth lies in between. Snopes has a summary of both sides http://www.snopes.com/politics/crime/genovese.asp

[speedsix]

Scary story, and Gestapo tactics. I do have an issue with the story, however...

Who the heck wanders around with $13,000 in cash on them? Taking pictures, visiting a shooting range, all with that kind of cash? Who pays for tuition, or any high-value transaction with cash? If necessary, cashier's checks would be preferred from both ends of the transaction. It just doesn't pass the smell test. I also note this was written by her lawyers.

But it's still a frightening story.

Last I heard, cash is still accepted as legal tender. I have had larges sums of cash in hand (or pocket actually) a few times. Paid cash for one of my motorcycles a couple of months ago.

There's no argument that carrying large quantities of cash is not illegal (as long as you're not leaving the country without declaring it) -- it's just stupid. So stupid, that it raises questions.

...just because you don't choose to deal in cash, or carry a lot of it with you...doesn't mean that others who do are stupid...you don't get to define stupid...

...this isn't the first time that the "authorities" found a citizen in possession of a large amount of cash and tried to hang something illegal on them...in this case they were trying to hang something on someone, and found her in possession of a large amount of cash...it's no surprise that some of it came up missing...