New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread
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I am happy to add one to your collection: out-of-control unjustified stop and frisk.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/opini ... u_20120613" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Jim
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/opini ... u_20120613" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread
What this country needs is a President who, in the wake of a disaster hitting NYC, will call up Bloomie on live TV and ask him how the nanny state thing is working out for him. Then hang up without offering any more bailouts for NYC.
Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread
Oh yeah... I forgot that one... Thanks..57Coastie wrote:I am happy to add one to your collection.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/opini ... u_20120613" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Keep em coming...
Maybe if we get enough I can send the link to the good (/sarcasm) Mayor.
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Just because our NYC brothers might be left-wing, nanny state, liberals (at least 51% of them, anyways) doesn't mean they aren't our brothers.smoothoperator wrote:What this country needs is a President who, in the wake of a disaster hitting NYC, will call up Bloomie on live TV and ask him how the nanny state thing is working out for him. Then hang up without offering any more bailouts for NYC.
Tough love, sure. Abandonment? I wouldn't.
New York City needs an intervention. Like on TV.

Upstate NY is pretty cool, I think. Beautiful geography too..
Still a bit left for me, but, not as much as downstate.
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Nobody should get bailouts. That's communism not brotherhood.
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Not a chance. They are like suicide bombers - ready to go to their grave for "the cause".Oldgringo wrote:Once those left wing, liberal yankees find out we ain't coming up there no more, they'll get right.WildBill wrote:This sounds like mass psychosis.
That said, there are a lot of fine people in NY State. Kinda like Texas when you get out of Austin and Houston. The unfortunate part is that the political machines control the elections to the extent the a decent person rarely gets elected to public office. And the ones that are elected drink the same Koolaid.
Just think - you could have a Chuck Schumer representing you. Wait.... we have Joe Strauss....

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Mrs. Anygun wants me to take her to NYC to do the tourista thing, you know, catch a broadway show stuff. I'm not sure I want to catch a broadway show if the drink and popcorn at the shows are restricted in size. I would be jonesin' for a big gulp size and a bucket with butter drizzled popcorn.
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Four years in the Navy during Vietnam and the only place I ever got shot at was Brooklyn.fannypacker wrote:My wife's daughter lives in Brooklyn and she goes every year. I love my wife but I just can't bring myself to go there with her. I feel really uncomfortable disarming after all these of carrying.
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The problem is that the vast majority of NY legislators are from NYCity, and the vast majority of them are elected over and over through the political machine. NYCity is the very best example of a megatropolis that needs to be parted from the rest of the state.RoyGBiv wrote:Just because our NYC brothers might be left-wing, nanny state, liberals (at least 51% of them, anyways) doesn't mean they aren't our brothers.smoothoperator wrote:What this country needs is a President who, in the wake of a disaster hitting NYC, will call up Bloomie on live TV and ask him how the nanny state thing is working out for him. Then hang up without offering any more bailouts for NYC.
Tough love, sure. Abandonment? I wouldn't.
New York City needs an intervention. Like on TV.
Upstate NY is pretty cool, I think. Beautiful geography too..
Still a bit left for me, but, not as much as downstate.
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Cigar Afficiando Magazine, in the August 2012 issue, details in the "Editor's Note" on page 13
that Bloomberg is trying to get all NYC apartment buildings to have written detailed smoking policies,
and that real estate agents should disclose the smoking or non-smoking habits of current tenants so that
future tenants will know.
Bloomberg claims that he is not trying to outlaw tobacco smoking in private residences, but this will inevitably
lead to banning it, IMHO.
I'm not a smoker, but heck, folks should be able to have some cancer sticks if they're in their own home.
By the way, I tried to provide the link to the above citation, but the above magazine's searching capability
was not user-friendly.
SIA
that Bloomberg is trying to get all NYC apartment buildings to have written detailed smoking policies,
and that real estate agents should disclose the smoking or non-smoking habits of current tenants so that
future tenants will know.
Bloomberg claims that he is not trying to outlaw tobacco smoking in private residences, but this will inevitably
lead to banning it, IMHO.
I'm not a smoker, but heck, folks should be able to have some cancer sticks if they're in their own home.
By the way, I tried to provide the link to the above citation, but the above magazine's searching capability
was not user-friendly.
SIA
N. Texas LTC's hold 3 breakfasts each month. All are 800 AM. OC is fine.
2nd Saturdays: Rudy's BBQ, N. Dallas Pkwy, N.bound, N. of Main St., Frisco.
3rd Saturdays: Golden Corral, 465 E. I-20, Collins St exit, Arlington.
4th Saturdays: Sunny St. Cafe, off I-20, Exit 415, Mikus Rd, Willow Park.
2nd Saturdays: Rudy's BBQ, N. Dallas Pkwy, N.bound, N. of Main St., Frisco.
3rd Saturdays: Golden Corral, 465 E. I-20, Collins St exit, Arlington.
4th Saturdays: Sunny St. Cafe, off I-20, Exit 415, Mikus Rd, Willow Park.
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Another good one...surprise_i'm_armed wrote:I tried to provide the link to the above citation, but the above magazine's searching capability
was not user-friendly.
SIA
I was able to find a related link, not the original article..
I think the issue you're referring to is not available online yet (probably the current issue in newsstands).
http://www.cigaraficionado.com/blogs/show/id/16545" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Here's the news story from the Times, from 18-April-12
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/19/nyreg ... dings.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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A fine smoke should not be referred to as a cancer stick.surprise_i'm_armed wrote:
I'm not a smoker, but heck, folks should be able to have some cancer sticks if they're in their own home.
Anygunanywhere while taking a long draw on a Romeo and Julieta Churchill while sipping a good bourbon seated on the back porch of the house in La Grange. Armed of course.
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An imaginative step has been taken to attempt to bring the seriousness of this stop and frisk issue to the attention of the authorities and the public.57Coastie wrote:I am happy to add one to your collection: out-of-control unjustified stop and frisk.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/06/12/opini ... u_20120613" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Jim
http://www.nyclu.org/app" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: New York: The Liberty Infringement Thread
Here's one
http://nation.foxnews.com/gun-control/2 ... king-guest
Apparently, the NY Legislature is going to vote on microstamping. S.E. Cupp does a credible job of keeping the Brady guy at bay.
http://nation.foxnews.com/gun-control/2 ... king-guest
Apparently, the NY Legislature is going to vote on microstamping. S.E. Cupp does a credible job of keeping the Brady guy at bay.
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RoyGBiv:
Thank you for your diligence at finding some related links to my post.
anygunanywhere:
I realized that regular tobacco cigarettes are the worst cancer sticks.
Cigars are less so. I'm glad that you are enjoying yours. When Cuba is opened
up to US interests, you should have even more of a choice.
The US base for cigar making was Tampa, Florida. I don't know if that's still true.
I'm not sure if it was in Cuba or Tampa, but the cigar companies used to employ
"readers". These men would stand at the front of the large cigar rolling rooms
and read a variety of newspapers and books over speakers to the people doing
the repetitive job of rolling cigars. They would read all day in order to keep the workers entertained.
Eventually the readers read too many articles about social justice/unionizing issues
and management finally got rid of them.
SIA
Thank you for your diligence at finding some related links to my post.
anygunanywhere:
I realized that regular tobacco cigarettes are the worst cancer sticks.
Cigars are less so. I'm glad that you are enjoying yours. When Cuba is opened
up to US interests, you should have even more of a choice.
The US base for cigar making was Tampa, Florida. I don't know if that's still true.
I'm not sure if it was in Cuba or Tampa, but the cigar companies used to employ
"readers". These men would stand at the front of the large cigar rolling rooms
and read a variety of newspapers and books over speakers to the people doing
the repetitive job of rolling cigars. They would read all day in order to keep the workers entertained.
Eventually the readers read too many articles about social justice/unionizing issues
and management finally got rid of them.
SIA
N. Texas LTC's hold 3 breakfasts each month. All are 800 AM. OC is fine.
2nd Saturdays: Rudy's BBQ, N. Dallas Pkwy, N.bound, N. of Main St., Frisco.
3rd Saturdays: Golden Corral, 465 E. I-20, Collins St exit, Arlington.
4th Saturdays: Sunny St. Cafe, off I-20, Exit 415, Mikus Rd, Willow Park.
2nd Saturdays: Rudy's BBQ, N. Dallas Pkwy, N.bound, N. of Main St., Frisco.
3rd Saturdays: Golden Corral, 465 E. I-20, Collins St exit, Arlington.
4th Saturdays: Sunny St. Cafe, off I-20, Exit 415, Mikus Rd, Willow Park.