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OH - Man accidentally shoots himself

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After showing them the gun he replaced the magazine, and must have released the slide chambering another round instead of releasing the slide first and then inserting the magazine. The gun then fired as the victim was waving it around his head.
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The handgun, a Glock 27 .40 caliber
Why did I think that?
Sad actually, legs, arms, now head. Becoming more and more apparent that they are not safe (JMHO).

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I have a revolver where the cylinder swings out and it contains all the cartridges.
You can look down the barrel while the cylinder is swung out and see it is unloaded, then put the cylinder in and wave it around and pull the trigger and get that "BANG" too
The fault is not with the designs of the guns (revolvers and/or Glocks and/or ANY double-action or Semi-Auto like a Keltec or Kahr or Seecamp or ....)
They'd be safer if they had no trigger ...
Alternatively, people could learn not to flip a switch unless they want a light coming on, sometimes the light comes with thunder.

I'd advise against operating a forklift too for people who don't know the equipment.
There's a responsibility involved in understanding how a machine works if you want to operate it.
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RPB wrote:I have a revolver where the cylinder swings out and it contains all the cartridges.
You can look down the barrel while the cylinder is swung out and see it is unloaded, then put the cylinder in and wave it around and pull the trigger and get that "BANG" too
The fault is not with the designs of the guns (revolvers and/or Glocks and/or ANY double-action or Semi-Auto like a Keltec or Kahr or Seecamp or ....)
They'd be safer if they had no trigger ...
Alternatively, people could learn not to flip a switch unless they want a light coming on, sometimes the light comes with thunder.

I'd advise against operating a forklift too for people who don't know the equipment.
There's a responsibility involved in understanding how a machine works if you want to operate it.
The Darwin Award winner in this case was doing more than waving the gun around his head. He obviously pulled the trigger while the muzzle was aligned with his cranium.

The article doesn't provide detail, but it's a good bet that he had been drinking, snorting, smoking, or ingesting something that wasn't good for him shortly before his final act.

Jeff Cooper said it best - something along the lines of:

No gun can be made foolproof. Fools should keep their hands off of machinery.
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I would think any SA would go off if you had your booger hook on the bang switch and slammed a mag in - many have where the slide releases - seems this would result in a bang. Therefore, if he had been following all the rules...

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Divided Attention wrote:I would think any SA would go off if you had your booger hook on the bang switch and slammed a mag in - many have where the slide releases - seems this would result in a bang. Therefore, if he had been following all the rules...

Prayers for his family.
This is not the case. The slide may close when a magazine is slammed in. However, the disconnector, which is the part that keeps the gun from going full auto if you don't release the trigger instantly, keeps the gun from firing until the trigger is released and pressed again.

The trigger has to be pulled after the slide goes into battery to fire the gun.

If anyone decides to verify this, please do so with a triple verified empty gun.

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Excaliber wrote:
Divided Attention wrote:I would think any SA would go off if you had your booger hook on the bang switch and slammed a mag in - many have where the slide releases - seems this would result in a bang. Therefore, if he had been following all the rules...

Prayers for his family.
This is not the case. The slide may close when a magazine is slammed in. However, the disconnector, which is the part that keeps the gun from going full auto if you don't release the trigger instantly, keeps the gun from firing until the trigger is released and pressed again.

The trigger has to be pulled after the slide goes into battery to fire the gun.

If anyone decides to verify this, please do so with a triple verified empty gun.

The award winner here had to work hard at achieving his final status.
:iagree: If a SA fires when the slide puts a round into battery, even with the finger on the trigger, then it is malfunctioning and needs serious maintenance.
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JJVP wrote: :banghead:

http://www.marionstar.com/article/20120 ... od|mostcom" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
:iagree: that was no accident

negligent at least and sounds more like reckless
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