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Holster Slowly And With Care-warning

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After having fired several rounds during the course of fire, the officer was in the process of holstering when the pistol discharged through the open portion of the bottom of the holster. The round entered the outside of the right upper calf and exited the outside of the lower calf and was stopped by the ground (grass/dirt surface). The round did not strike any bone or the ankle or foot. There was not excessive bleeding and it was later found that there was no serious nerve damage. The officer is expected to make a full recovery.
I remembering this happening to a guy in a minivan and shot himself in the hip and bled to death but he didn’t have a holster

http://www.gundigest.com/gun-blogs/conc ... -with-care" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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barstoolguru wrote:
when the pistol discharged through the open portion of the bottom of the holster. T
I agree that we all need to be careful, but I see 2 glaring issues here.

1 - how did "the pistol discharge"
2 - if there weren't an open portion of the bottom of the holster before, there would be now!
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Related Article I read the other day...

The Evils Of Speed Holstering

http://www.downrange.tv/blog/the-evils- ... ing/14102/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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:iagree: Read Prevention 3

I am curious what kind of holster. This is the main reason I insist on using a holster that stays open at the mouth. I believe that it is possible for a gun to fire while reholstering by catching the trigger on clothing or the holster material. Having a "floppy" or flattened holster increases this chance, IMO. Of course it is very possible [and more probable] he had the ol' booger hook in the wrong place.
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barstoolguru wrote:I remembering this happening to a guy in a minivan and shot himself in the hip and bled to death but he didn’t have a holster

http://www.gundigest.com/gun-blogs/conc ... -with-care" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
There are a lot of negligent discharges that have been documented from reholstering (or trying to put the gun in your pants without a holster. Here is that event you are talking about http://sleepless.blogs.com/george/2011/ ... death.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There is another with a worn holster http://www.itstactical.com/warcom/firea ... ischarges/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And of course, there is the infamous DEA agent who is the only one qualified to shoot himself in the leg http://www.northwestfirearms.com/genera ... -sues.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

There are tons of others. Reholstering is the most dangerous thing that you can do as you have more opportunity to depress the trigger. When moving the gun forward it has more chances of catching on something than when drawing.
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WildBill wrote::iagree: Read Point 4

I am curious what kind of holster. This is the main reason I insist on using a holster that stays open at the mouth. I believe that it is possible for a gun to fire while reholstering by catching the trigger on clothing or the holster material. Having a "floppy" or flattened holster increases this chance, IMO. Of course it is very possible he had the ol' booger hook in the wrong place.
Looks like a Blackhawk Sepra Sport Tactical to me http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Sports ... 6,1410.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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In June 2012, a group of LEOs was participating in firearms training at the range with the department’s issued pistol and ammunition. The officer was using a .40 S&W caliber SIG P229 DAK. The ammunition was department-issued Federal Premium 180-grain HST. The holster utilized was a right-handed Blackhawk Serpa CQC concealment paddle-style. The officer was wearing a light-weight wet weather jacket due to rainy conditions on that day.
and the cord from his jacket got caught in the trigger guard
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Keith B wrote:
WildBill wrote::iagree: Read Point 4

I am curious what kind of holster. This is the main reason I insist on using a holster that stays open at the mouth. I believe that it is possible for a gun to fire while reholstering by catching the trigger on clothing or the holster material. Having a "floppy" or flattened holster increases this chance, IMO. Of course it is very possible he had the ol' booger hook in the wrong place.
Looks like a Blackhawk Sepra to me
I meant the holster in the OP.
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WildBill wrote:
Keith B wrote:
WildBill wrote::iagree: Read Point 4

I am curious what kind of holster. This is the main reason I insist on using a holster that stays open at the mouth. I believe that it is possible for a gun to fire while reholstering by catching the trigger on clothing or the holster material. Having a "floppy" or flattened holster increases this chance, IMO. Of course it is very possible he had the ol' booger hook in the wrong place.
Looks like a Blackhawk Sepra to me
I meant the holster in the OP.
In the OP, the photo shows a Serpa.
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Keith B wrote:
WildBill wrote::iagree: Read Point 4

I am curious what kind of holster. This is the main reason I insist on using a holster that stays open at the mouth. I believe that it is possible for a gun to fire while reholstering by catching the trigger on clothing or the holster material. Having a "floppy" or flattened holster increases this chance, IMO. Of course it is very possible he had the ol' booger hook in the wrong place.
Looks like a Blackhawk Sepra Sport Tactical to me http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Sports ... 6,1410.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
From what I could tell. In every one of those stories the "victim" still had their finger in the trigger guard. WHY?
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ajwakeboarder wrote:
Keith B wrote:
WildBill wrote::iagree: Read Point 4

I am curious what kind of holster. This is the main reason I insist on using a holster that stays open at the mouth. I believe that it is possible for a gun to fire while reholstering by catching the trigger on clothing or the holster material. Having a "floppy" or flattened holster increases this chance, IMO. Of course it is very possible he had the ol' booger hook in the wrong place.
Looks like a Blackhawk Sepra Sport Tactical to me http://www.blackhawk.com/product/Sports ... 6,1410.htm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
From what I could tell. In every one of those stories the "victim" still had their finger in the trigger guard. WHY?
Negligence? Sometimes people get sloppy and forget their trigger discipline. Maybe that's why the article stresses people to slow down. After all, what's the hurry?
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Then there is everybody favorite ....tex grebner... shooting himself in the leg


This contains some strong language (after all he shoots himself)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYvAxLX6OzE" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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I never understood the fascination with speed holstering.
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I have always been told no one ever won a gun fight on how fast they could reholster - take your time, don't sweep your off hand and keep your finger off the trigger!
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I saw this a couple of weeks ago.

I'll bet this guy is cutting all of the cords from all of his jackets.
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