Man carrying AK-47 arrested in downtown Dallas
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Man carrying AK-47 arrested in downtown Dallas
Man carrying AK-47 arrested in downtown Dallas
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A 21-year-old man from southeast Texas is behind bars after police spotted him carrying a loaded AK-47 in downtown Dallas.
Johnson Nguyen of Richards is facing a charge of disorderly conduct/displaying a firearm. He is also charged with cocaine possession.
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from MyFoxDFW.com
A 21-year-old man from southeast Texas is behind bars after police spotted him carrying a loaded AK-47 in downtown Dallas.
Johnson Nguyen of Richards is facing a charge of disorderly conduct/displaying a firearm. He is also charged with cocaine possession.
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Re: Man carrying AK-47 arrested in downtown Dallas
Police arrest man brandishing AK-47 in downtown Dallas
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Police Say This Guy Was Walking Around Downtown Waving an AK-47, Having Cocaine
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Police Say This Guy Was Walking Around Downtown Waving an AK-47, Having Cocaine
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Re: Man carrying AK-47 arrested in downtown Dallas
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here is the link
here is the link
Re: Man carrying AK-47 arrested in downtown Dallas
I updated the OP's post.
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Re: Man carrying AK-47 arrested in downtown Dallas
Throw the book at him.
It almost makes me want to organize a peaceful, cacaine-free, non "brandishing" EBR downtown event. But then I'd have to go to Dallas. . . and then I'd need a scalding, long, disinfecting shower.

It almost makes me want to organize a peaceful, cacaine-free, non "brandishing" EBR downtown event. But then I'd have to go to Dallas. . . and then I'd need a scalding, long, disinfecting shower.

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Re: Man carrying AK-47 arrested in downtown Dallas
Seems to qualify for the "play stupid games, win stupid prizes" category.
Cocaine? What a moron.
Cocaine? What a moron.
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Re: Man carrying AK-47 arrested in downtown Dallas
Thanks
I'll be interested in the details
For several years (1977-1980) I carried a loaded double barrel shotgun (side by side coach gun) several blocks down Westheimer in Houston close to town/Montrose, near a catholic church/Lanier Middle School - to and from a business I managed. Westheimer/Dunlavy area IIRC
FOUND IT, Next to SOUTHLAND HARDWARE/ Westheimer at Driscoll Street; across from the school. we got robbed once.
http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&rl ... CGkQ_BIwAA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But I carried it "broke open" even though loaded, but not "waiving it around" NOT "in a manner calculated to alarm" but with a flick of the wrist it could close and I could fire it, ... no cocaine
I'll be interested in the details
For several years (1977-1980) I carried a loaded double barrel shotgun (side by side coach gun) several blocks down Westheimer in Houston close to town/Montrose, near a catholic church/Lanier Middle School - to and from a business I managed. Westheimer/Dunlavy area IIRC
FOUND IT, Next to SOUTHLAND HARDWARE/ Westheimer at Driscoll Street; across from the school. we got robbed once.
http://maps.google.com/maps?oe=utf-8&rl ... CGkQ_BIwAA" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
But I carried it "broke open" even though loaded, but not "waiving it around" NOT "in a manner calculated to alarm" but with a flick of the wrist it could close and I could fire it, ... no cocaine

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Re: Man carrying AK-47 arrested in downtown Dallas
So, it was an "AK-47"? And the reporters knew this because it had a milled receiver and was capable of fully automatic fire? Sorry, but the press does this to scare the public beyond one drunk/high idiot with a gun. Not saying the man wasn't a potential danger but they write that stuff the way they do to build more "anti" sentiment. 

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Re: Man carrying AK-47 arrested in downtown Dallas
The police report states it is a Romanian AK-47. It also documents the AK's value at $300. Sure wish I could get an AK for $300. Wonder if they are willing to sell it?Heartland Patriot wrote:So, it was an "AK-47"? And the reporters knew this because it had a milled receiver and was capable of fully automatic fire? Sorry, but the press does this to scare the public beyond one drunk/high idiot with a gun. Not saying the man wasn't a potential danger but they write that stuff the way they do to build more "anti" sentiment.

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Re: Man carrying AK-47 arrested in downtown Dallas
Small side rant: While the AK clones in the US may not technically be "AK-47s" it has entered the common lexicon even for gun owners.Heartland Patriot wrote:So, it was an "AK-47"? And the reporters knew this because it had a milled receiver and was capable of fully automatic fire? Sorry, but the press does this to scare the public beyond one drunk/high idiot with a gun. Not saying the man wasn't a potential danger but they write that stuff the way they do to build more "anti" sentiment.
Getting mad about a Romanian WASR being called an AK-47 is like being mad that a DPMS .308 AR is referred to by some as an AR-10, or that store brand tissue is called "Kleenex" by most people.
In general, the only distinctions I draw are AK-47s are 7.62x39 guns, and AK-74s are 5.45x39. Its pretty commonly understood that when you refer to these two types of guns in the States, you're talking about their semi auto civilian clones.
I'm certainly not going to refer to them all by their individual brand names.


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Re: Man carrying AK-47 arrested in downtown Dallas
(I'm on my phone and it makes it hard to quote.)
@74novaman:
The issue I have isn't a purist thing. It's because using the term AK-47 conjures up an image of a person holding down the trigger and spraying a stream of bullets. I would be okay with it if they added the words semi-automatic or called it a civilian clone...something to let non-gun people know that it wasn't a "machinegun". But they don't because either they are ignorant themselves or they WANT folks to overreact to the story.
@74novaman:
The issue I have isn't a purist thing. It's because using the term AK-47 conjures up an image of a person holding down the trigger and spraying a stream of bullets. I would be okay with it if they added the words semi-automatic or called it a civilian clone...something to let non-gun people know that it wasn't a "machinegun". But they don't because either they are ignorant themselves or they WANT folks to overreact to the story.
Re: Man carrying AK-47 arrested in downtown Dallas
Understood.Heartland Patriot wrote:(I'm on my phone and it makes it hard to quote.)
@74novaman:
The issue I have isn't a purist thing. It's because using the term AK-47 conjures up an image of a person holding down the trigger and spraying a stream of bullets. I would be okay with it if they added the words semi-automatic or called it a civilian clone...something to let non-gun people know that it wasn't a "machinegun". But they don't because either they are ignorant themselves or they WANT folks to overreact to the story.
Depending on the reporter, I think either ignorance or malice explains why they report it that way. (Sometimes even both).

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Re: Man carrying AK-47 arrested in downtown Dallas
Note that they charged him with disorderly conduct not any violation of the gun laws. This illustrates that while you can legally carry a rifle or shotgun openly, you may still be charge with disorderly conduct if you carry it in the wrong place, like downtown Dallas.
The cocaine possesion is probably what really got him though.
The cocaine possesion is probably what really got him though.
Re: Man carrying AK-47 arrested in downtown Dallas
stroo wrote:Note that they charged him with disorderly conduct not any violation of the gun laws. This illustrates that while you can legally carry a rifle or shotgun openly, you may still be charge with disorderly conduct if you carry it in the wrong place, like downtown Dallas.
The cocaine possesion is probably what really got him though.

42.01. DISORDERLY CONDUCT.
(a) A person commits an offense if he intentionally or knowingly:
(1) uses abusive, indecent, profane, or vulgar language in a public place, and the language by its very utterance tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace;
(2) makes an offensive gesture or display in a public place, and the gesture or display tends to incite an immediate breach of the peace;
(3) creates, by chemical means, a noxious and unreasonable odor in a public place;
(4) abuses or threatens a person in a public place in an obviously offensive manner;
(5) makes unreasonable noise in a public place other than a sport shooting range, as defined by Section 250.001, Local Government Code, or in or near a private residence that he has no right to occupy;
(6) fights with another in a public place;
(7) discharges a firearm in a public place other than a public road or a sport shooting range, as defined by Section 250.001, Local Government Code;
(8) displays a firearm or other deadly weapon in a public place in a manner calculated to alarm;
(9) discharges a firearm on or across a public road;
(10) exposes his anus or genitals in a public place and is reckless about whether another may be present who will be offended or alarmed by his act; or
(11) for a lewd or unlawful purpose:
(A) enters on the property of another and looks into a dwelling on the property through any window or other opening in the dwelling;
(B) while on the premises of a hotel or comparable establishment, looks into a guest room not the person's own through a window or other opening in the room; or
(C) while on the premises of a public place, looks into an area such as a restroom or shower stall or changing or dressing room that is designed to provide privacy to a person using the area.
(b) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(4) that the actor had significant provocation for his abusive or threatening conduct.
(c) For purposes of this section:
(1) an act is deemed to occur in a public place or near a private residence if it produces its offensive or proscribed consequences in the public place or near a private residence; and
(2) a noise is presumed to be unreasonable if the noise exceeds a decibel level of 85 after the person making the noise receives notice from a magistrate or peace officer that the noise is a public nuisance.
(d) An offense under this section is a Class C misdemeanor unless committed under Subsection (a)(7) or (a)(8), in which event it is a Class B misdemeanor.
(e) It is a defense to prosecution for an offense under Subsection (a)(7) or (9) that the person who discharged the firearm had a reasonable fear of bodily injury to the person or to another by a dangerous wild animal as defined by Section 822.101, Health and Safety Code.
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Re: Man carrying AK-47 arrested in downtown Dallas
Now, now, now. You can't blame the reporter! He was simply following the the journalist guide to identifying firearms.Heartland Patriot wrote:So, it was an "AK-47"? And the reporters knew this because it had a milled receiver and was capable of fully automatic fire? Sorry, but the press does this to scare the public beyond one drunk/high idiot with a gun. Not saying the man wasn't a potential danger but they write that stuff the way they do to build more "anti" sentiment.

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