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[CC Italian]

Agree with all the advice given. I would also like to add my personal experience and that I know of personally two people who have been bitten by a pit bull. Both in the face and one of them needed reconstructive surgery. It was horrific! Needless to say I don't mess with aggressive dogs, especially pits. Also, several neighbors and I finally got a neighbor of a rental house to move out(it was a tedious process). They were breeding red pits and keeping them in cages in their garage for fighting. If you are a pit owner then you know of all the breeding problems with the dogs and the people who breed them just for fighting. If a dog growls at me in my own yard I consider it a threat to my safety.

I know some will say it is all in how you raise them etc etc but there is a reason why they have all these problems with pits. When I was a kid we got a puppy from the pound and it was boxer/pit. This dog was never mistreated and was always aggressive! We thought it might calm down with age even after taking it to all those puppy training classes that everybody says most dogs need. Needless to say after having the dog a year or so my parents had to put it down after digging out of the back yard and attacking a little kid. Luckily it only bit his shoe and pulled on his pants. When we took it to the vet the last thing it did was growl at the vet. The vet said a lot of the pits are inbred and it causes mental problems with the dogs.

That being said I know not all dogs even pit bulls are like this and I currently have a dog (lab) and I am an animal lover but when people have these dogs they need to be kept secure at all times. Pit bulls are more likely to be aggressive! You can also check actual dog bits and the majority are from pit bulls by far! You are a pit owner so I know you probably know everything I have said already. Just remember don't take roaming pits for granted just because your pits have been well mannered dogs. Many are not like that.

Edit: Also, the people I know who where attacked, one a close friend both thought the dogs where safe and the owners were present at the time and said the dogs where gentle as could be. At no time had the dogs showed aggressive tendencies toward people. Both petted the dogs and for what ever reason the dogs didn't like them and attacked without warning.

[C-dub]

Pitbulls do not have the highest bite rates. I think that goes to Cockers or Poodles or Dachshunds maybe. Some other breed that doesn't cause much damage that isn't newsworthy or scary. Pitbulls do have a very high newsworthy rating when they bite and they do cause quite a bit more damage when they bite.

And they don't bite because the breed is bad. They bite because they are POORLY bred and most people that want them don't care or know enough about dogs to know what to look for or ask about.

[Jumping Frog]

Pitbulls do not have the highest bite rates. I think that goes to Cockers or Poodles or Dachshunds maybe. Some other breed that doesn't cause much damage that isn't newsworthy or scary. Pitbulls do have a very high newsworthy rating when they bite and they do cause quite a bit more damage when they bite.

And they don't bite because the breed is bad. They bite because they are POORLY bred and most people that want them don't care or know enough about dogs to know what to look for or ask about.

They don't have the highest percentage of bites. But they do account for about 70% of human fatalities. As I recall, Chihuahuas are most likely to bite but they aren't responsible for many fatalities.

[CC Italian]

Checked some statistics C-DUB and here is what I found. No conclusive evidence that pit bulls bite more then other dogs. This is true. They are just reported more because the attacks are often more serious. So I admit to that. But what I did find is that the attacks are more horrific and more deaths are related to pit bulls then any other breed after checking various sources. Of course it doesn't take in to account that many of these dogs are used for security or home protection. As for the breed being bad? I didn't say that. What I said is that because of inbreeding many of these dogs have genetic defects which can cause problems with some of them socializing with humans and other dogs because of the inbreeding. This is what I was told by my vet. Take it or leave it as you please. Go to a local pound and many of the dogs are pits that are up for adoption. This is because low lifes breed them like crazy and then abandon the ones they don't want. One of the problems with all this breeding is the inbreeding of these animals with the same litters. This is what I was told by the vet and county SPCA.

So I guess how I should of phrased it is that a pit-bull attack is more likely to be deadly or more damage done. Then again I don't worry about my future in-laws 5 pound Chihuahua much. Rat shot! Like I said my best friend was attacked by one and this dog was a family dog. He was petting it and he has a permanent scare on his face. The other person I know lost her mouth (lips) and had several cosmetics surgeries and the scares are still there. Both owners raised these dogs as family pets and not guard dogs.

You should take any violent or aggressive dog seriously but pound for pound a pit bull is the one who does the most damage. This is why I stress watching out for aggressive pit bulls. I apologize for saying they attack more. There are just more deadly cases, more damage caused and more cases reported. Those are the three facts.

[CC Italian]

The way I look at it is they are the Manny Pacquiao of dogs when it comes to their take a chunk at of your butt potential. Nobody wants to get in a fight with Manny Pacquiao! Nobody wants to get attacked by pit bull.

Though she be but little, she is fierce

Bill

[smoothoperator]

When you said the dog was called home, I thought that was the right solution until I realized you meant it literally.

[C-dub]

Checked some statistics C-DUB and here is what I found. No conclusive evidence that pit bulls bite more then other dogs. This is true. They are just reported more because the attacks are often more serious. So I admit to that. But what I did find is that the attacks are more horrific and more deaths are related to pit bulls then any other breed after checking various sources. Of course it doesn't take in to account that many of these dogs are used for security or home protection. As for the breed being bad? I didn't say that. What I said is that because of inbreeding many of these dogs have genetic defects which can cause problems with some of them socializing with humans and other dogs because of the inbreeding. This is what I was told by my vet. Take it or leave it as you please. Go to a local pound and many of the dogs are pits that are up for adoption. This is because low lifes breed them like crazy and then abandon the ones they don't want. One of the problems with all this breeding is the inbreeding of these animals with the same litters. This is what I was told by the vet and county SPCA.

So I guess how I should of phrased it is that a pit-bull attack is more likely to be deadly or more damage done. Then again I don't worry about my future in-laws 5 pound Chihuahua much. Rat shot! Like I said my best friend was attacked by one and this dog was a family dog. He was petting it and he has a permanent scare on his face. The other person I know lost her mouth (lips) and had several cosmetics surgeries and the scares are still there. Both owners raised these dogs as family pets and not guard dogs.

You should take any violent or aggressive dog seriously but pound for pound a pit bull is the one who does the most damage. This is why I stress watching out for aggressive pit bulls. I apologize for saying they attack more. There are just more deadly cases, more damage caused and more cases reported. Those are the three facts.

You and your vet are correct. I didn't quote you because I didn't want to directly call you out on your statement. Your initial opinion is a common misconception because of the mainstream media. Mine was merely a general statement to everyone and not intended directly at you CC Italian.

The same thing happened with Rottweilers in the 90's. Being over bred and poorly bred caused many of the problems then and it was very difficult to find a well bred Rottie and cost mucho $$$ to get one. Same thing with Pits, but there isn't a very big demand for well bred ones (American Staffordshire Terriers), so their prices haven't really skyrocketed that much.

[NorthDallas7]

I thought "premises" was defined as the building, meaning the inside of your home.

Does premises include your yard, both front and back? Ok to carry a gun without a CHL outdoors in your front and back yard? Are you all sure?

Thanks.

[sjfcontrol]

I thought "premises" was defined as the building, meaning the inside of your home.

Does premises include your yard, both front and back? Ok to carry a gun without a CHL outdoors in your front and back yard? Are you all sure?

Thanks.

You can carry openly on your PROPERTY. There doesn't even have to be any structures on it.

[sjfcontrol]

As I recall, Chihuahuas are most likely to bite but they aren't responsible for many fatalities.

I'd be quite embarrassed to tell St. Peter that I'd died from a chihuahua attack.

[CC Italian]

Some of those little chihuahuas have little man syndrome. No one will watch my in laws when they go out of town because its so mean. It only allows a few people to pick it up and I am not one of them. Mean little spud!

Edit: They should make a B horror movie called Attack of the Killer Chihuahuas. You know it would be funny!

[91wm6]

Agree with all the advice given. I would also like to add my personal experience and that I know of personally two people who have been bitten by a pit bull. Both in the face and one of them needed reconstructive surgery. It was horrific! Needless to say I don't mess with aggressive dogs, especially pits. Also, several neighbors and I finally got a neighbor of a rental house to move out(it was a tedious process). They were breeding red pits and keeping them in cages in their garage for fighting. If you are a pit owner then you know of all the breeding problems with the dogs and the people who breed them just for fighting. If a dog growls at me in my own yard I consider it a threat to my safety.

I know some will say it is all in how you raise them etc etc but there is a reason why they have all these problems with pits. When I was a kid we got a puppy from the pound and it was boxer/pit. This dog was never mistreated and was always aggressive! We thought it might calm down with age even after taking it to all those puppy training classes that everybody says most dogs need. Needless to say after having the dog a year or so my parents had to put it down after digging out of the back yard and attacking a little kid. Luckily it only bit his shoe and pulled on his pants. When we took it to the vet the last thing it did was growl at the vet. The vet said a lot of the pits are inbred and it causes mental problems with the dogs.

That being said I know not all dogs even pit bulls are like this and I currently have a dog (lab) and I am an animal lover but when people have these dogs they need to be kept secure at all times. Pit bulls are more likely to be aggressive! You can also check actual dog bits and the majority are from pit bulls by far! You are a pit owner so I know you probably know everything I have said already. Just remember don't take roaming pits for granted just because your pits have been well mannered dogs. Many are not like that.

Edit: Also, the people I know who where attacked, one a close friend both thought the dogs where safe and the owners were present at the time and said the dogs where gentle as could be. At no time had the dogs showed aggressive tendencies toward people. Both petted the dogs and for what ever reason the dogs didn't like them and attacked without warning.

If you look at real world data you will see that labs, cocker spaniels and wiener dogs each bite more people than pit bulls every year. You just hear more about pit bull attacks because when they do bite they do more damage due to their size and strength.

[AlfaBrewer]

Thank you all for your responses. I have filed a complaint with animal control; just one of many for this dog. They have actually been called out three times that I know of, and the owner has been cited two of those times.

My next door neighbor (the one who got trapped in her car) is a PO, and has already explained to the owner that she will shoot the dog if he is on her property or even looks at her kids. That has seemed to help with the frequency of the dog getting out, as this was the first time in a couple of months after weekly occurrences.

I understand that my experience with pit bulls may be the exception that proves the rule, and do not take any encounter with this particular dog lightly.

[srothstein]

Some of those little chihuahuas have little man syndrome.

Some? You mean you know one that doesn't?

[C-dub]

As I recall, Chihuahuas are most likely to bite but they aren't responsible for many fatalities.

I'd be quite embarrassed to tell St. Peter that I'd died from a chihuahua attack.

Maybe it was a pack of Chihuahuas or an attack in Chihuahua.