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In September a 35-year-old male pedestrian was killed in a collision with a Hummer on west FM 517 in Dickinson.

Monday the Galveston County Medical Examiner ruled the death a suicide by intentionally stepping into the road.

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I don't know what factors led to the conclusion.

Earlier this month a man ran across I-45 near FM 1764 in Texas City and was killed in a collision with a truck. The man had no ID when he died.

Tuesday police identified him as a 44-year-old man from Hitchcock. His car was parked near where he entered the freeway. The reason he entered the freeway is unknown.

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Why did the chicken cross the road?
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Suicide is not something to be taken lightly, sir.

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seamusTX wrote:Suicide is not something to be taken lightly, sir.

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Agree.

It is almost always an incredibly selfish act and even more detestable when the actor harms innocent people (murder-suicides) or shows no regard for those who will find him/her, unrelated parties who will deal with the emotional scarring (drivers on the freeway in this instance, LEOs in suicide-by-cop), family and loved ones. It just passes their emotional issues on to scores of others who have to live with them.

My heart goes out to anybody who has been impacted by the suicide of another in any of these ways. . . I'll confess I have difficulty fully mourning the deceased without holding on to a vestige of anger.
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My grandmother had a woman commit suicide on her by causing a head on collision. The woman wasn't wearing a seatbelt and died at the scene, my grandmother was, and spent the rest of her life in pain due to multipul surgeries on both legs and both feet.

Everyone knew she was suciadal, she had been released from a mental hospital just a few weeks prior to the crash due to an attempted suicide. My grandmother was never the same, physically or mentally. Knowing she was just at the wrong place at the wrong time didn't ease her pain.
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Jaguar wrote:My grandmother had a woman commit suicide on her by causing a head on collision. The woman wasn't wearing a seatbelt and died at the scene, my grandmother was, and spent the rest of her life in pain due to multipul surgeries on both legs and both feet.

Everyone knew she was suciadal, she had been released from a mental hospital just a few weeks prior to the crash due to an attempted suicide. My grandmother was never the same, physically or mentally. Knowing she was just at the wrong place at the wrong time didn't ease her pain.
Jaguar, where & when did this happen? Seems I saw something on TV a while back on something similar.
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Jim Beaux wrote:
Jaguar wrote:My grandmother had a woman commit suicide on her by causing a head on collision. The woman wasn't wearing a seatbelt and died at the scene, my grandmother was, and spent the rest of her life in pain due to multipul surgeries on both legs and both feet.

Everyone knew she was suciadal, she had been released from a mental hospital just a few weeks prior to the crash due to an attempted suicide. My grandmother was never the same, physically or mentally. Knowing she was just at the wrong place at the wrong time didn't ease her pain.
Jaguar, where & when did this happen? Seems I saw something on TV a while back on something similar.
Blackwell, OK, many years ago. My time frame is a little fuzzy, sometime in the early to mid 1980's. My grandmother lived until 1997.
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Suicide doesn't end your suffering, it merely passes that suffering on to those who survive your suicide
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seamusTX wrote:Suicide is not something to be taken lightly, sir.

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My 24 year old kid sister committed suicide, Jim.
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Jaguar wrote:
Jim Beaux wrote:
Jaguar wrote:My grandmother had a woman commit suicide on her by causing a head on collision. The woman wasn't wearing a seatbelt and died at the scene, my grandmother was, and spent the rest of her life in pain due to multipul surgeries on both legs and both feet.

Everyone knew she was suciadal, she had been released from a mental hospital just a few weeks prior to the crash due to an attempted suicide. My grandmother was never the same, physically or mentally. Knowing she was just at the wrong place at the wrong time didn't ease her pain.
Jaguar, where & when did this happen? Seems I saw something on TV a while back on something similar.
Blackwell, OK, many years ago. My time frame is a little fuzzy, sometime in the early to mid 1980's. My grandmother lived until 1997.
As I recall a woman took off her seat belt and hit a family head on. I was thinking Kansas-Missouri-Nebraska area. Sorry your grandmother had to suffer as she did.
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Oldgringo wrote:
seamusTX wrote:Suicide is not something to be taken lightly, sir.

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My 24 year old kid sister committed suicide, Jim.
My condolences. A pain like this is beyond my imagination.
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fickman wrote:
seamusTX wrote:Suicide is not something to be taken lightly, sir.

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Agree.

It is almost always an incredibly selfish act and even more detestable when the actor harms innocent people (murder-suicides) or shows no regard for those who will find him/her, unrelated parties who will deal with the emotional scarring (drivers on the freeway in this instance, LEOs in suicide-by-cop), family and loved ones. It just passes their emotional issues on to scores of others who have to live with them.

My heart goes out to anybody who has been impacted by the suicide of another in any of these ways. . . I'll confess I have difficulty fully mourning the deceased without holding on to a vestige of anger.
I have to agree with Oldgringo to some extent. An awful lot of suicides seem to have no reason behind them, or at least no reason that those left behind can fathom.

My late wife had a piano coach/mentor for many years and John had, shall we say, a very tender and sensitive personality. He was prone to deep dark depression and when we couldn't get ahold of him we worried that the worst might have happened. John met Caren McGee-Russell through their mutual interest in music and the arts and romance blossomed. But Caren had her darker side too, she had been a very promising dancer when injury took that manner of expression from her, and she found herself cast aside in a genre that values the ability to perform far more than the ability to choreograph or teach, both of which she did excellently.

Caren (pronounced CAR (like auto) EN) suffered from bouts of depression also and was a frequent "guest" at our local facility dedicated to such thing, often checking herself in for just a few days, but never sent there by a doctor.

John competed in the Van Cliburn competition and was invited back to teach, Caren was left behind in Saratoga NY to teach at Skidmore, and shortly after John left went into an even deeper depression than she had ever had before. She visited our house on her way to check herself in and it was easy to tell that she was in a bad way, she had lost a huge amount of weight for her already skinny frame and my wife said she looked like an ad for a famine.

A couple of days later she checked herself out, and we have no idea how she got there, but she "met" the train nearby, literally, according to the engineer she stood in the middle of the tracks with her arms outstretched.

John "wasted away" after that. Could not keep food down and the doctors could find no physical reason for his illness. He followed his beloved Caren a few short months later.
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Jim Beaux wrote:
Oldgringo wrote:
seamusTX wrote:Suicide is not something to be taken lightly, sir.

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My 24 year old kid sister committed suicide, Jim.
My condolences. A pain like this is beyond my imagination.
Thank you. That was a long time ago. Death is a part of living and we will all deal with it sooner or later - in one way or another. Life does go on - like it or not.
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Oldgringo wrote:Death is a part of living and we will all deal with it sooner or later - in one way or another. Life does go on - like it or not.
This is one of my favorite verses. . . it may sound harsh to some, but it's extremely comforting to me:
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This happened to a friend of mine one time several years ago. He was driving along the highway at night when someone ran out in the road right in front of him.

He thought he was going to be charged with vehicular homicide, and even called his wife to tell her that he killed someone with his car and was probably going to jail. My friend is an ex-cop and figured he'd be looking at 20 years.

Apparently, there was a bar next to the highway where the guy was drinking. Detectives questioned the patrons and found out that the guy was saying that he was going to run out in front of a car on the highway.

My friend still struggles with and is haunted by the fact that he killed someone, even if it was a suicide and not his fault. He still thinks about what he could have done differently to avoid him, could he have been more observant of the road, could he have swerved, anything.
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