Another CHL school question...

[TexasCajun]

The less someone in a position of authority knows about CHL laws & provisions, the better. Most of the time such "enlightenment" will result in a brand new, shiny, fully compliant 30.06 sign. Although schools don't need to post 30.06 signs since a schoolbuilding is a statutorially prohibited place. But for every other regular place, the following applies: The 1st rule of CHL is don't talk about CHL (to outsiders), the second rule about CHL is DON'T TALK ABOUT CHL (to outsiders). Or to put it more simply, Shhhhhhhhh!

[wgoforth]

The less someone in a position of authority knows about CHL laws & provisions, the better. Most of the time such "enlightenment" will result in a brand new, shiny, fully compliant 30.06 sign. Although schools don't need to post 30.06 signs since a schoolbuilding is a statutorially prohibited place. But for every other regular place, the following applies: The 1st rule of CHL is don't talk about CHL (to outsiders), the second rule about CHL is DON'T TALK ABOUT CHL (to outsiders). Or to put it more simply, Shhhhhhhhh!

For a typical CHL holder true. But the OP is an employee of the school. Schools often will have dogs going through the parking lot searching for weapons. So, not just about the building in this case, and most schools do not allow employees to have a gun in their vehicle as an employee policy.

[TexasCajun]

True. Somewhere in my rambling attempt to be cute. I lost a little bit of sight with regard to the OP's original question & circumstances. Thanks!

[RottenApple]

Sec. 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):(1) on the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the institution;

I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to point out. Are you trying to say that it is illegal to carry a firearm while on school property unless the CHL holder has written authorization from the institution? Or just that a CHL holder requires written authorization in order to carry in a school building?

[wgoforth]

Sec. 46.03. PLACES WEAPONS PROHIBITED. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly possesses or goes with a firearm, illegal knife, club, or prohibited weapon listed in Section 46.05(a):(1) on the physical premises of a school or educational institution, any grounds or building on which an activity sponsored by a school or educational institution is being conducted, or a passenger transportation vehicle of a school or educational institution, whether the school or educational institution is public or private, unless pursuant to written regulations or written authorization of the institution;

I'm not sure I understand what you are trying to point out. Are you trying to say that it is illegal to carry a firearm while on school property unless the CHL holder has written authorization from the institution? Or just that a CHL holder requires written authorization in order to carry in a school building?

Saying that one can carry in schools providing they have written permission. I was adding this onto my comment that was directly above it in regard to the Harrold School District authorizing their teachers with CHL's to carry in class. This was simply citing the law allowing it.

[gdanaher]

So at the end of the day, if the ISD has no written policy to prohibit it, have we decided that a school employee can lock a handgun in the vehicle while it is parked and the employee is at work?

Just one other note. The employee should examine his contract to see if there is language contained therein that would prohibit possession of a firearm on school property. It might be a condition of continued employment.

[68blackbird]

Thanks to everyone for helping out on this, we are much more informed now. I have passed this sight on to my friends who are already CHL holders, looking forward to obtaining mine, rest assured I will frequent this forum for more insight, Kelly

[kjolly]

As dangerous as schools historicaly can become, I think it would be prudent for a district to commission, arm and train some of the teachers to protect the students.

[wgoforth]

As dangerous as schools historicaly can become, I think it would be prudent for a district to commission, arm and train some of the teachers to protect the students.

I friend of mine... a public school teacher who is a CHL holder... told me that his school had some active shooter scenario training. He said the school approved strategy consisted of each classroom turning out the lights, shutting and locking the door, and writing on a piece of paper how many students are in your class and sliding it under the door into the hallway in a shooting situation.... yeah brilliant.

[Keith B]

So, here's the basic breakdown on legality for a school employee:

If schools no weapons policy is told to the Texas CHL holding employee verbally, they are handed a document or it is written in the manual in the 30.06 specific format, or there are proper 30.06 signs at parking lot, then it is still a gray area as a school is a government entity and is not supposed to be able to use 30.06 to prevent carry on grounds.

With none of the above, it is perfectly legal for them to have the handgun in the locked in the vehicle on the lot. They just don't get the protection from being fired that the Parking Lot Law provides employees of other businesses.

[Jim88]

As a 20 year school district employee, the OP would be very wise to read his employee handbook. I can just about guarantee you that it's covered in there and will almost certainly say you can't have it anywhere on district property as a condition of employment.