How Did This Happen in Michigan Before Texas?
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How Did This Happen in Michigan Before Texas?
Bill Allowing Guns In Schools, Churches Moves Through Legislature
It could soon be legal to carry concealed weapons into Michigan churches, schools, hospitals and sports arenas.
A bill that would wipe out most so-called “gun free zones” is speeding through the lame duck legislature, despite some vocal opposition.
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It could soon be legal to carry concealed weapons into Michigan churches, schools, hospitals and sports arenas.
A bill that would wipe out most so-called “gun free zones” is speeding through the lame duck legislature, despite some vocal opposition.
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“It violates our religious principles that you should try to resolve things with love not hate,”


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I don't hate the BG. I just love my family.Oldgringo wrote:“It violates our religious principles that you should try to resolve things with love not hate,”; however, when that doesn't work, it's
time.

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Elections have consequences.
I believe the basic political division in this country is not between liberals and conservatives but between those who believe that they should have a say in the personal lives of strangers and those who do not.
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Isaiah 48:22
"There is no peace,” says the Lord, “for the wicked.”
PROVERBS 11:9
A city is happy when honest people have good fortune, and there are joyful shouts when wicked men die.
PROVERBS 17:11
Death will come like a cruel messenger to wicked people who are always stirring up trouble.
"There is no peace,” says the Lord, “for the wicked.”
PROVERBS 11:9
A city is happy when honest people have good fortune, and there are joyful shouts when wicked men die.
PROVERBS 17:11
Death will come like a cruel messenger to wicked people who are always stirring up trouble.
The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. James Madison
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Is it just me or does that quote sounds backwards? It sounds like it is saying that it violates their religious principles to resolve things with love instead of hate.Oldgringo wrote:“It violates our religious principles that you should try to resolve things with love not hate,”; however, when that doesn't work, it's
time.
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The Lord works in mysterious ways.C-dub wrote:Is it just me or does that quote sounds backwards? It sounds like it is saying that it violates their religious principles to resolve things with love instead of hate.Oldgringo wrote:“It violates our religious principles that you should try to resolve things with love not hate,”; however, when that doesn't work, it's
time.
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Sorry, that would be Proverbs 11:10baldeagle wrote:
PROVERBS 11:9
A city is happy when honest people have good fortune, and there are joyful shouts when wicked men die.
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http://www.freep.com/article/20121214/N ... n-massacre" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Senate Bill 59 on Thursday, which tweaks the concealed weapons law by allowing gun owners who receive eight additional hours of training to carry their weapons in formerly gun-free areas, such as day care centers, schools, hospitals, churches and stadiums and bars.
There about 350,000 concealed pistol license holders throughout the state who would be eligible for the additional training, Harris said.
The bill sponsored by state Sen. Mike Green, R-Mayville, also states that schools, including public universities, and privately owned buildings could choose to prohibit guns if owners desire.
interesting approach to campus carry type laws
additional training ... like 2 classes of licensees.
1 can carry in gun-free zones, the others can't
like edging their way into getting rid of the zones slowly after later showing... look no massacres by CHLs who carried there ...
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tornado wrote:I don't hate the BG. I just love my family.Oldgringo wrote:“It violates our religious principles that you should try to resolve things with love not hate,”; however, when that doesn't work, it's
time.




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Michigan governor vetoes concealed weapons bill which protects students and teachers
USA TODAY - 2 hours ago
DETROIT -- Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder vetoed legislation Tuesday that would have allowed gun owners with extra training to carry their ...
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USA TODAY - 2 hours ago
DETROIT -- Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder vetoed legislation Tuesday that would have allowed gun owners with extra training to carry their ...
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Re: How Did This Happen in Michigan Before Texas?
Michigan's Republican Governor today vetoed the bill described above.
Rick Snyder "killed the measure, approved by the legislature less than 24 hours before the Newtown killings, primarily because it didn’t allow day-care centers, hospitals and other public entities to opt out, according to a letter sent to the state Senate."
I don't know the details, but it seems amazing to me that the bill ever got to the Governor. Only one Democrat voted for it, and that evidently tipped the scales. This in Michigan.
Yesterday, Texas Governor Rick Perry said that people with concealed-carry permits should be able to take firearms anywhere. He spoke at an event in North Richland Hills hosted by the Northeast Tarrant Tea Party.
God Bless Texas!
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Rick Snyder "killed the measure, approved by the legislature less than 24 hours before the Newtown killings, primarily because it didn’t allow day-care centers, hospitals and other public entities to opt out, according to a letter sent to the state Senate."
I don't know the details, but it seems amazing to me that the bill ever got to the Governor. Only one Democrat voted for it, and that evidently tipped the scales. This in Michigan.
Yesterday, Texas Governor Rick Perry said that people with concealed-carry permits should be able to take firearms anywhere. He spoke at an event in North Richland Hills hosted by the Northeast Tarrant Tea Party.
God Bless Texas!
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Yeahbut, when questioned by the media as he was leaving the event, he said "local control" meaning they can "opt out" if they want to.Skiprr wrote:Yesterday, Texas Governor Rick Perry said that people with concealed-carry permits should be able to take firearms anywhere. He spoke at an event in North Richland Hills hosted by the Northeast Tarrant Tea Party.
We already have that. That's no change at all.
These "leaders" will never learn. Gun free zones are victim rich zones and attractive shooting grounds for mentally unbalanced people.
The Constitution preserves the advantage of being armed which Americans possess over the people of almost every other nation where the governments are afraid to trust the people with arms. James Madison
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Doesn't surprise me. I have a lot of relatives in Michigan and spent a lot of time there this summer. Snyder is less a conservative than an opportunist.