TAC / RP against NRA proposition

[packa45]

My school had an armed police officer and 3 unarmed security officers on staff at all times during normal hours. This was a daily affair unless the police officer was sick. On those days another police officer from a nearby campus would patrol both campuses. It helped lower some instances of fights stabbings,etc but all a smart criminal has to do is wait for a few minutes when the officer is not in the immediate vicinity and start his act of installing fear and terror. If teachers and other faculty have at least the minimum amount of CHL training and some assistance from the school districts/school police there would be a drastic decrease in violent crime in schools today. Like actIve shooter training for non LEO's because many people under extreme stress (sudden outburst of gunfire in their classroom be it at them or someone else) cannot pull the weapon let alone hit their intended target.

However I do see a potential problem when/if a violent event does occur and a teacher is drawn down on crazed gunman, knife wielding samurai, or crazed homeless guy looking for beer money, and the local authorities arrive and mistake said teacher for said psycho because a neighborhood citizen that does not know what is going on called in a shots fired or man with a knife running after kids on school property. Not all departments have cross communication and that is where one main problem is. Some departments have to relay to a dispatcher who relays to another dispatcher who relays to their officer what is going on, that teacher or faculty member could end up in the hospital or worse.

[Purplehood]

My school had an armed police officer and 3 unarmed security officers on staff at all times during normal hours. This was a daily affair unless the police officer was sick. On those days another police officer from a nearby campus would patrol both campuses. It helped lower some instances of fights stabbings,etc but all a smart criminal has to do is wait for a few minutes when the officer is not in the immediate vicinity and start his act of installing fear and terror. If teachers and other faculty have at least the minimum amount of CHL training and some assistance from the school districts/school police there would be a drastic decrease in violent crime in schools today. Like actIve shooter training for non LEO's because many people under extreme stress (sudden outburst of gunfire in their classroom be it at them or someone else) cannot pull the weapon let alone hit their intended target.

However I do see a potential problem when/if a violent event does occur and a teacher is drawn down on crazed gunman, knife wielding samurai, or crazed homeless guy looking for beer money, and the local authorities arrive and mistake said teacher for said psycho because a neighborhood citizen that does not know what is going on called in a shots fired or man with a knife running after kids on school property. Not all departments have cross communication and that is where one main problem is. Some departments have to relay to a dispatcher who relays to another dispatcher who relays to their officer what is going on, that teacher or faculty member could end up in the hospital or worse.

Yes, that is always a problem and we move on.

[Heartland Patriot]

The money could easily come from our waste filled foreign aid bribes to countries and regimes who despise the United States. Funding is an excuse, it is not a reason.

THIS is EXACTLY where they need to pull the money from...maybe Hamas could go without a few Iranian rockets for a month or two, or maybe Hamid Karzai can get along without some new armored limos to cruise around in, while they fund the police in schools. The Federal government is already bound and determined to blow the taxpayers' money, it would be nice to channel at least a little of it on something that might prove marginally useful vs. completely wasting it on utter garbage (to include passing and enforcing some stupid gun ban that won't stop one criminal).

[oldtexan]

It's always good to have all the perspectives available in such times and here is yet another from the Tenth Amendment Center. They state the NRA proposition is unconstitutional.
And then there is the article about what Ron Paul has to say here.

It appears this could be a lengthy conversation, that is if the powers that be actually listen to all sides.

I have to admit I was good with the NRA proposal, but deep down would prefer just to promote more CHL. But now, I feel this is something worth talking about.

I certainly understand that the NRA is a one-issue organization, and am a member, but I disliked a lot of what Mr. LaPierre said in his Friday speech. He sounded hysterical IMO. It's important to protect to protect the First Amendment so I'd oppose any hint of government action against video games. I'm also opposed to creating a national registry of mentally ill persons. Going after the news media like he did will appeal to folks who already strongly agree with him, but will just turn off those people who are persuadable.

I ran some numbers on the proposal to put a police officer in every public school in America. Estimating a figure of 100k public schools in the US(there were 98,817 in 2009-2010), at 1 officer per school, at $100K(probably a low figure) per officer (salary, pension fund, health care, training, equipment, recruiting, etc), we're talking an annual cost for this of about $11 billion. In an era of tremendous need to cut Federal spending, this, like foreign aid and many other programs, seems a poor use of the taxpayers' dollars.