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LEO Disarming Homeowner?
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- stevie_d_64
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Re: LEO Disarming Homeowner?
I would hypothetically "not" open my door...Because I just don't want a hypothetical law enforcement officer to see my gloriously hypothetical skivvies and t-shirt...I'm hypothetically kinda shy...
Hypothetically speaking of course...
Hypothetically speaking of course...
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Re: LEO Disarming Homeowner?
Don't be shy, son, in my post above, I should have mentioned, I guess, that I was wearing a terry cloth wrap, a skirt if you will, and a holstered 1911.stevie_d_64 wrote:I would hypothetically "not" open my door...Because I just don't want a hypothetical law enforcement officer to see my gloriously hypothetical skivvies and t-shirt...I'm hypothetically kinda shy...
Hypothetically speaking of course...
My standard house clearing attire, except sometimes I forget the wrap and mostly I don't wear the holster, I just figured if I was going outside I would look less threatening with my gun in a holster.
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Re: LEO Disarming Homeowner?
texanjoker wrote:Why would you open your door in the middle of the night without looking outside first to see who is there? I would never open my door without knowing who was out there at any time, let alone the middle of the night. If you did this in your hypothetical scenario you would see uniformed police officers and would hopefully use common sense to not answer the door holding a gun.
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Re: LEO Disarming Homeowner?
You could ask him to put his gun away in his car if he wants to talk to you.brainman wrote:Ok, I am not saying I would do this or think it's a good idea. But, taking the OP's hypothetical situation, if the LEO says he wants me to put away the gun and I don't want to, what happens then? Something along the lines of:"Sorry, officer, I'm not putting my gun away. You can talk to me with it holstered or I can go back inside and you can leave." How's that gonna go over?
Re: LEO Disarming Homeowner?
Which is why hypothetical never produces much, except more hypothetical and hypothetical has no bounds.mgood wrote:apostate wrote:Why did you open the door?I said it's a hypothetical situation.
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Re: LEO Disarming Homeowner?
Hypothetical has hypothetical bounds, which can markedly differ from life's reality bounds.JKTex wrote:Which is why hypothetical never produces much, except more hypothetical and hypothetical has no bounds.
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Re: LEO Disarming Homeowner?
I think, as I posted in the thread on the shooting, that the answer is clear in the law. If you have a CHL, the law says that any officer may disarm you for his safety, your safety, or the safety of others. There is no limit in the law on the location. So, yes, an officer may disarm a CHL inside his house if they come into contact with you there for any reason.
I think the next logical question is if an officer has any legal right to disarm any person who is legally carrying under some other authority than a CHL.
I think the next logical question is if an officer has any legal right to disarm any person who is legally carrying under some other authority than a CHL.
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Re: LEO Disarming Homeowner?
I could almost see, to great horror, that terry cloth wrap falling to the deck if you had to draw...jimlongley wrote:Don't be shy, son, in my post above, I should have mentioned, I guess, that I was wearing a terry cloth wrap, a skirt if you will, and a holstered 1911.stevie_d_64 wrote:I would hypothetically "not" open my door...Because I just don't want a hypothetical law enforcement officer to see my gloriously hypothetical skivvies and t-shirt...I'm hypothetically kinda shy...
Hypothetically speaking of course...
My standard house clearing attire, except sometimes I forget the wrap and mostly I don't wear the holster, I just figured if I was going outside I would look less threatening with my gun in a holster.
At which point you could be arrested and charged with failure to conceal...
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Re: LEO Disarming Homeowner?
Ah, yes. The infamous "Brandishing".stevie_d_64 wrote:
At which point you could be arrested and charged with failure to conceal...![]()
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Re: LEO Disarming Homeowner?
hypothetically you will get tased for brandishing a stick gunstevie_d_64 wrote:I could almost see, to great horror, that terry cloth wrap falling to the deck if you had to draw...jimlongley wrote:Don't be shy, son, in my post above, I should have mentioned, I guess, that I was wearing a terry cloth wrap, a skirt if you will, and a holstered 1911.stevie_d_64 wrote:I would hypothetically "not" open my door...Because I just don't want a hypothetical law enforcement officer to see my gloriously hypothetical skivvies and t-shirt...I'm hypothetically kinda shy...
Hypothetically speaking of course...
My standard house clearing attire, except sometimes I forget the wrap and mostly I don't wear the holster, I just figured if I was going outside I would look less threatening with my gun in a holster.![]()
At which point you could be arrested and charged with failure to conceal...![]()
Re: LEO Disarming Homeowner?
Yes, but what if there were no hypotheticals?texanjoker wrote:hypothetically you will get tased for brandishing a stick gunstevie_d_64 wrote:I could almost see, to great horror, that terry cloth wrap falling to the deck if you had to draw...jimlongley wrote:Don't be shy, son, in my post above, I should have mentioned, I guess, that I was wearing a terry cloth wrap, a skirt if you will, and a holstered 1911.stevie_d_64 wrote:I would hypothetically "not" open my door...Because I just don't want a hypothetical law enforcement officer to see my gloriously hypothetical skivvies and t-shirt...I'm hypothetically kinda shy...
Hypothetically speaking of course...
My standard house clearing attire, except sometimes I forget the wrap and mostly I don't wear the holster, I just figured if I was going outside I would look less threatening with my gun in a holster.![]()
At which point you could be arrested and charged with failure to conceal...![]()
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Re: LEO Disarming Homeowner?
OK folks, back on the real topic and drop the innuendos.
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Re: LEO Disarming Homeowner?
I disagree. Charles has explained the authority issue many, many times before. While you may have a CHL, you are not carrying under its authority while on your own property.srothstein wrote:I think, as I posted in the thread on the shooting, that the answer is clear in the law. If you have a CHL, the law says that any officer may disarm you for his safety, your safety, or the safety of others. There is no limit in the law on the location. So, yes, an officer may disarm a CHL inside his house if they come into contact with you there for any reason.
I think the next logical question is if an officer has any legal right to disarm any person who is legally carrying under some other authority than a CHL.
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Re: LEO Disarming Homeowner?
stevie_d_64 wrote:I could almost see, to great horror, that terry cloth wrap falling to the deck if you had to draw...jimlongley wrote:Don't be shy, son, in my post above, I should have mentioned, I guess, that I was wearing a terry cloth wrap, a skirt if you will, and a holstered 1911.stevie_d_64 wrote:I would hypothetically "not" open my door...Because I just don't want a hypothetical law enforcement officer to see my gloriously hypothetical skivvies and t-shirt...I'm hypothetically kinda shy...
Hypothetically speaking of course...
My standard house clearing attire, except sometimes I forget the wrap and mostly I don't wear the holster, I just figured if I was going outside I would look less threatening with my gun in a holster.![]()
At which point you could be arrested and charged with failure to conceal...![]()
Edited my bad joke out... lol
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Re: LEO Disarming Homeowner?
Keith B wrote:OK folks, back on the real topic and drop the innuendos.
Doh! I posted before I saw this. My apologies.