OK... it is getting real...

[kw5kw]

I sure hope you get to feeling better. Stay home until your well.

That nasty flu bug can hang on quite a while. Consider this your get well card.

Russ

[pbandjelly]

I'm missing something here. You said policy stated "unauthorized" weapons. according to the DPS, you're authorized to carry concealed.

thank you, drive through.

[BrassMonkey]

CHL authorization does not supercede a private access property owner/controller's ability to restrict. Especially an employee of said organization. Word games can get him fired... For some of us, loss of employment risk is just as important as risk of criminal prosecution.

[sailor2000]

Sent the following to our 'safety manager' this morning...

"I see that we have a Police Officer in the Lobby this morning. That is certainly an important element of the response to the threat from the employee we were told of yesterday.

While we certainly all hope that the worst case scenario will not occur, given recent events it would seem prudent to have the employees fully informed of what to do in the event the threat does materialize.

The current situation has brought up a few questions;

If an employee sees someone they think might be the man who made the threat, how should they respond? Should they attempt to contact the officer in the Lobby? How? Call 911? What is the plan?

If the man is seen, how will the other employees be informed that there is an imminent threat and where the danger is? Are the employees to ‘shelter in place’, attempt to exit the building or? Is there a designated ‘safe area’ that will be protected by the officer where the employees should gather?

Please advise."

[pbandjelly]

CHL authorization does not supercede a private access property owner/controller's ability to restrict. Especially an employee of said organization. Word games can get him fired... For some of us, loss of employment risk is just as important as risk of criminal prosecution.

suuuUUUUuuure.
they said unauthorized. if he is authorized, by the DPS, then he is not carrying an unauthorized weapon.
unless they have a list, as does my employer, of what constitutes an unauthorized weapon, then you have to defer to TPC.

[BrassMonkey]

I think in the case of employer/employee spirit of the rules Vs. letter of the rules comes into play here. While the policy may have been written to allow CHL to carry on the premises, you don't know that for sure. here is an example of a "better"? written example oif a gun policy IMHO. This is from a large defense contractor here in Dallas. And even this leaves open the question of, what are appropriate permits? I have just come to be extremely cautious with ambiguity in workplace policies. I have a son to take care of and cannot afford to test a policy, or not display the better part of valor in something that serious.

===snip===
3. Workplace Violence. Violence in our workplace will not be tolerated. Associates who commit or threaten to commit acts of violence at Company Name facilities or while conducting Company Name business are subject to disciplinary action, up to and including termination of employment or engagement. No Associate, customer, supplier or guest, except law enforcement officials and Company Name security personnel who have the appropriate permits, is allowed to carry a weapon, concealed or otherwise, into any Company Names' facility or onto our premises.
===snip===

[Armybrat]

Just ask your employer to authorize you to carry in the building. If he can't/refuses, then tell him he will be liable in case you are injured by the BG.

[stevie_d_64]

Question...

Regardless of the authorization from your employer, etc etc...

You stated you have an AK at your desk...

Why???

I ask in all respect to your situation, and information you have given us so far...And with the information that your company has beefed up its security and visibility on premises, are they allowing you to keep the AK at your desk???

If I have missed something here, I apologize...

Just seeking additional clarification on this issue...

[kdmill_1]

I think that would definitely fall into the category of "terroristic threat." If your employer didn't immediately notify police/FBI/Homeland Security, etc., then ask him how big of a law suite he can handle. I agree that if you go to work and there's not a bunch of LEO around, go home, call your employer, call the police, then call a lawyer.

[Venus Pax]

I understand that remaining employed is just as important as staying alive to many of us.
I don't recommend veiled threats (or even promises ) of lawsuits from you personally.
Are you a union employee? If so, this is why you pay union dues. Call your union rep. Tell this person what you are telling us. Since union reps are paid by employee dues, the company cannot intimidate or fire them. If the rep goes and makes these comments, it might get the ball moving for those of you that appreciate the right to defend yourselves.

Also, read your employee manual carefully. Does it simply say "no unauthorized weapons"? You may be able to atleast hide a little kel-tec in your pocket in a pocket holster. (Just wear looser pants.)

I know this has got to be nerve-racking. Even if you aren't union, remain in contact with your safety dept to see what's going on. Have a plan, even if it doesn't involve your gun.

[KBCraig]

Question...

Regardless of the authorization from your employer, etc etc...

You stated you have an AK at your desk...

Why???

No, he said "Yes... I would have a loaded AK at my desk if I could... but that is not going to happen... "

[stevie_d_64]

Question...

Regardless of the authorization from your employer, etc etc...

You stated you have an AK at your desk...

Why???

No, he said "Yes... I would have a loaded AK at my desk if I could... but that is not going to happen... "

Got it...I scanned too fast on that...Bad on my part...

Kinda like seeing a gun and reacting...

I see "AK" and "at my desk", and I lost the "would have"...

I am so fired, because I hung a gun rack on my wall, in my office...uggghh, I thought the times have changed...