airsoft for training

[1s1k52]

anyone go down this road? I have been shocked with everything I have been finding out in the last 2 weeks with how these are made now. I am pretty sure I am going to go down this road. However, I am trying to learn which one I want considering they range from 80.00-140.00. Learning about green gas etc. Seems to be a very good choice to work on drawing and muscle memory at a very cheap, fun, and schedule friendly way for me to stay shooting.

If you are reading this I encourage you to look into whatever gun you currently carry in a air soft version. Personally for me carrying a Glock, several manufactures seem very identical. I will try to get as close as possible all the way down to trigger pull.

[jayinsat]

I am seriously considering. A friend of mine has a 1911 and AR air soft and we practice in his yard. His were pricey and use green gas. The 1911 was like $250 and AR almost $300!

[1s1k52]

I am seriously considering. A friend of mine has a 1911 and AR air soft and we practice in his yard. His were pricey and use green gas. The 1911 was like $250 and AR almost $300!

First of all congratulations on almost having plastic for a year.

Yes the exspense upfront for the close replicas is way more then one would think. That was so shocking to me. Have you seen the market? There is war games with this stuff!

I really don't have the money to shoot or to get into airsoft right now. So I am
Trying to make my dollar go far when I get there. The famous "green gas" doesn't work in ll
Pistols so I am still reading up. At Wally world 10 bucks gets us a spring loaded pistol may start there.

[doc540]

I use them in my new shooter safety training.

Spent a lot of money learning what works and what doesn't.

This is a great tool for learning how to operate a semiauto:
300-350fps


But the really quality revolvers are in Japan and scarce over here.

This is about the best I've found for the money in the U.S. Double action, loads and unloads like a real revolver, small enough for women shooters, large enough for average hands. 350-400fps

http://www.evike.com/product_info.php?products_id=42997

If it's good enough for Manny Bragg, it's good enough for me.
http://www.mannyusa.com/Firearms_Traini ... rsoft.html

[LittleGun]

I have two airsoft pistols for training: Sig P229 and P226. KJWorks and Tokyo Marui are good brands.

[jmain]

Yes, airsoft is a great training tool. I have shot around 5k rounds this year.
I have a g18 from tm. Metal slide blow back. I use propane for fuel vs green gas.

Red wolf distributing has the good units. You want a metal slide.
Mine feels and a balances just like a g17.

I think I paid around 250 plus shipping from Japan.

Buy once, cry once.

Good luck!

[1s1k52]

sorry for the delay in my response, I have been working like crazy here like crazy. I am wanting to get something as physically close to what I carry. Leaving the transition from one to the other pretty easy.

propane vs green gas what do you think is better and why jmain?

doc540 what other brands have you tried out vs what you recommended?

Thanks everyone for the replies.

[doc540]

sorry for the delay in my response, I have been working like crazy here like crazy. I am wanting to get something as physically close to what I carry. Leaving the transition from one to the other pretty easy.

propane vs green gas what do you think is better and why jmain?

doc540 what other brands have you tried out vs what you recommended?

Thanks everyone for the replies.

I could only recommend the ADP model shown in my post above.

It's well made and a dead ringer for a Glock.

[LAYGO]

I thought about using my airsoft pistol to practice with the Tueller Drill.

[1s1k52]

My mind is blown away at the detail and just what is overall involved in some of the airsoft guns. There are several types of gas that can be used etc. I have a few picked out ranging from 78.00 to 246.00 not including shipping from overseas. Also this doesn't include the money for gas, adapters, and BBs. Regardless, all of this still winds up being cheaper by thousands of dollars to "train" in my garage which is better than nothing. I will say I do not believe anything can truly replace the practice with a real weapon. Time, money, and location puts a lot of restraint on me for that. IF I actually get the opportunity to go this route I will try and post my findings on here. I see a lot of reviews on you tube but nothing that caters to the CCW world IMHO.

[1s1k52]

My mind is blown away at the detail and just what is overall involved in some of the airsoft guns. There are several types of gas that can be used etc. I have a few picked out ranging from 78.00 to 246.00 not including shipping from overseas. Also this doesn't include the money for gas, adapters, and BBs. Regardless, all of this still winds up being cheaper by thousands of dollars to "train" in my garage which is better than nothing. I will say I do not believe anything can truly replace the practice with a real weapon. Time, money, and location puts a lot of restraint on me for that. IF I actually get the opportunity to go this route I will try and post my findings on here. I see a lot of reviews on you tube but nothing that caters to the CCW world IMHO.

Just an update. I have not made a purchase as of yet due to finding out most pistols made for what I am wanting are sold overseas. I have no issue ordering this way but I didn't factor in crazy shipping cost and waiting time.

I am bumping this thread to inform people if you have an M9, almost any style 1911, and compact to full size Glocks, a lot of American companies have things on hand.

I thought about purchasing an Advantage Arms conversion. Two things came into a factor keeping me from this. I live in the middle of suburban hell and I can't find .22 ammo anywhere.

[MadMonkey]

All things in moderation.... don't use Airsoft exclusively, but used correctly for training it can a PHENOMENAL tool. I've been saying that for the last 4-5 years, and for the first 3 I was laughed at

It can't perfectly replicate blowback and noise, but you can modify the guns to weigh and balance exactly like your real ones. They can be used for drawing practice as well, and they provide good sight picture practice. They can even be used to help calm fears of an ND while reholstering or carrying with a round in the chamber, if you're using a similar gun and trigger pull.

But to me, the best thing to use Airsoft for is its intended purpose... shooting each other. It's invaluable to learn how quickly things can go wrong, and just how fast someone can get a round off at you and how slow you might be to respond. Use it to prove the 21' rule to yourself, or try to beat a buddy who already has the drop on you. It might not give the same level of adrenaline that a real bad-guy moment would, but it does add a layer of "This is going to hurt if I screw up" tension, and any added tension, stress or pressure helps.

And then you can just run out into the yard and start blasting at each other to blow off steam.

However...

1. ALWAYS wear eye protection. I've seen far too many stories of people losing eyes to Airsoft guns.

2. It's not as critical, but mouth protection is a good idea as well. I've seen a lot of chipped teeth... those little BBs carry a surprising amount of energy.

3. Long sleeves and gloves if you're worried about pain. It's hard to see, but I still have a scar from an Airsoft event in 2009 where I made the mistake of trying to make a building entry with 9 guys aiming at the door I was coming through...

Full face masks can cover the first 2 admirably.

ETA: If you're into EBRs, an organized Airsoft game will teach you very quickly what equipment works and what doesn't. Try out chest rigs, vests, armor and rail setups with lights, grips and other mods out there to see if your ideas hold up in the real world.

[LAYGO]

Heh MadMonkey. I've not been out to dfwap in ages. I need to fix my aeg.

[MadMonkey]

Heh MadMonkey. I've not been out to dfwap in ages. I need to fix my aeg.

I haven't either, I've been busy... for a while it was work (night shift, so going to a game meant going directly there from work), then I moved to Austin, then I was in Yuma for 3 months then Afghanistan for a year and a half... now I'm on a road trip that I've been on for over a month and a half.

I'll get out there again eventually. I need to update my gear.

[drjoker]

anyone go down this road? I have been shocked with everything I have been finding out in the last 2 weeks with how these are made now. I am pretty sure I am going to go down this road. However, I am trying to learn which one I want considering they range from 80.00-140.00. Learning about green gas etc. Seems to be a very good choice to work on drawing and muscle memory at a very cheap, fun, and schedule friendly way for me to stay shooting.

If you are reading this I encourage you to look into whatever gun you currently carry in a air soft version. Personally for me carrying a Glock, several manufactures seem very identical. I will try to get as close as possible all the way down to trigger pull.

Buy from a brick and mortar store with refund policy. ALL airsoft I have bought online fell apart after just a few shots. Due to shipping cost, it is not feasible to refund when purchased online. For example, if you bought a $30 airsoft gun and the shipping is $15, it is not worth your time to get a refund. I bought a nice Crosman pistol at Academy's for $30 and it works great. However, I did have to exhange it 2 times before I found this one. I bought a Daisy that fell apart after 1 shot and another Crosman that did not fire at all. I also bought a nice Crosman revolver at Academy and the first one did not work, so I exchanged it. The 2nd one worked great. I also have 3 airsoft guns (1 ak and 2 glocks) that I bought online but fell apart after just 20 shots or less. Quality control with airsoft is not like with real guns. You often have to exchange several times before you get a good one. At least that is my unfortunate experience.