Driving to Kansas
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Driving to Kansas
I'm taking my first trip (by car) out of state since getting my CHL to Kansas and I know Oklahoma and Kansas both honor the Texas CHL. My question is where can I go to see what legal "no carry" signs in each state look like? Any members have any experience carrying in these states? Do gun buster signs carry weight?
thanks for any info
thanks for any info
Re: Driving to Kansas
This will be a topic I am interested in when the smart members chime in.
I have been told that Oklahoma uses Gun Buster signs and they are legal. I do not know if this is true or not.
That is what I like about Texas it is very clear.
I have been told that Oklahoma uses Gun Buster signs and they are legal. I do not know if this is true or not.
That is what I like about Texas it is very clear.
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I make the trip to KS at least twice a year to visit family.
I think both states are similar in that they can both use gunbuster signs to prohibit you from carrying, but also require to be asked to leave or take the gun out of the store. Then, if you refuse you can be arrested for trespassing with the added weapon charge. I'm not sure how specific OK is on their signs, but I think the KS signs have to be at least 8"x8" and within just a couple of feet from the entrance and between 4-6 feet from the ground (eye level).
Otherwise, the rules regarding prohibited places are very similar to TX regarding CC. Just be wary of school zones now that school is back in session. With an out of state CHL, you don't get the same exemption from the federal GFZA that you get in TX with your TXCHL.
The fun part comes in that both states are OC now. OC with your TXCHL is okay in OK and KS doesn't require a license to OC, but having a CHL will get you the added ability to OC while driving in your car.
I think both states are similar in that they can both use gunbuster signs to prohibit you from carrying, but also require to be asked to leave or take the gun out of the store. Then, if you refuse you can be arrested for trespassing with the added weapon charge. I'm not sure how specific OK is on their signs, but I think the KS signs have to be at least 8"x8" and within just a couple of feet from the entrance and between 4-6 feet from the ground (eye level).
Otherwise, the rules regarding prohibited places are very similar to TX regarding CC. Just be wary of school zones now that school is back in session. With an out of state CHL, you don't get the same exemption from the federal GFZA that you get in TX with your TXCHL.
The fun part comes in that both states are OC now. OC with your TXCHL is okay in OK and KS doesn't require a license to OC, but having a CHL will get you the added ability to OC while driving in your car.
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Re: Driving to Kansas
Oklahoma: Ignore gun busters (they are NOT legal notice). No schools (duh), no government buildings/meetings, no professional sporting events, no place where "low-point beer" is sold for on-premises consumption if that is the primary purpose of the establishment (I.E. - no bars), no casinos. Open carry by CHL is legal.
Kansas: Gun-busters do not have force of law. There is a KS State Attorney General approved sign, but unless you are asked to leave, you can legally ignore it. No schools, no Capitol Building, no scure areas of jails/correctional facilities, public buildings MUST be posted with the AG approved sign to be off limits.
And that's it in a nutshell.
BTW, I've OC'd in OK and found it interesting. Not a single person noticed or, if they did, didn't react at all.
Kansas: Gun-busters do not have force of law. There is a KS State Attorney General approved sign, but unless you are asked to leave, you can legally ignore it. No schools, no Capitol Building, no scure areas of jails/correctional facilities, public buildings MUST be posted with the AG approved sign to be off limits.
And that's it in a nutshell.
BTW, I've OC'd in OK and found it interesting. Not a single person noticed or, if they did, didn't react at all.
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I may be incorrect but I interpreted government buildings to include rest stops in OK (not that there are that many of them to start with).
We just came back from a trip to SD, going through both States. As in Texas, I prefer the "concealed is concealed" route.
We just came back from a trip to SD, going through both States. As in Texas, I prefer the "concealed is concealed" route.
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Re: Driving to Kansas
Rest stops are not off limits unless they also include a manned "traveler's bureau".chasfm11 wrote:I may be incorrect but I interpreted government buildings to include rest stops in OK (not that there are that many of them to start with).
We just came back from a trip to SD, going through both States. As in Texas, I prefer the "concealed is concealed" route.
Any structure, building, or office space which is owned or leased by a city, town, county, state, or federal governmental authority for the purpose of conducting business with the public.
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Thanks. The only two rest stops that we found on I-35 fit that description, hence my conclusion. I only stopped at one of them and left my gun in the vehicle.RottenApple wrote:Rest stops are not off limits unless they also include a manned "traveler's bureau".chasfm11 wrote:I may be incorrect but I interpreted government buildings to include rest stops in OK (not that there are that many of them to start with).
We just came back from a trip to SD, going through both States. As in Texas, I prefer the "concealed is concealed" route.
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Uh oh, I think I've CCed in the big one in OK on I-35.
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