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Beiruty wrote:
Abraham wrote:"Texas eased requirements for carrying a concealed weapon, and opened the permits to more convicted criminals"

The above excerpted from the article.

I don't understand what they're talking about regarding: "and opened the permits to more convicted criminals"

Anyone have an idea as to what they're possibly referencing?
This is the lie. On the other hand, in Texas if one is convicted with Class A or Class B misdemeanor can lose his CHL for 5yrs.

So, if you have a Class C speeding ticket and you pay it, the NY author would label you as "convicted criminal" .
Just to play Devil's Advocate, wouldn't that be the case? While a Class C misdemeanor may be the lowest level of criminal offense in Texas, is it not still a criminal offense? While of course your conviction of a Class C misdemeanor will not cost you your CHL, does that mean you have not been convicted of a criminal offense?

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Re: Texas, Guns, and lies

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b322da wrote:
Beiruty wrote:
Abraham wrote:"Texas eased requirements for carrying a concealed weapon, and opened the permits to more convicted criminals"

The above excerpted from the article.

I don't understand what they're talking about regarding: "and opened the permits to more convicted criminals"

Anyone have an idea as to what they're possibly referencing?
This is the lie. On the other hand, in Texas if one is convicted with Class A or Class B misdemeanor can lose his CHL for 5yrs.

So, if you have a Class C speeding ticket and you pay it, the NY author would label you as "convicted criminal" .
Just to play Devil's Advocate, wouldn't that be the case? While a Class C misdemeanor may be the lowest level of criminal offense in Texas, is it not still a criminal offense? While of course your conviction of a Class C misdemeanor will not cost you your CHL, does that mean you have not been convicted of a criminal offense?

Jim
But were they not talking of recent events, like the last legislative session? If so, what laws have changed regarding making a CHL available to "MORE" convicted criminals? As far as I know, and I could be wrong, nothing has changed in regards to eligibility.
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b322da wrote:
Beiruty wrote:
Abraham wrote:"Texas eased requirements for carrying a concealed weapon, and opened the permits to more convicted criminals"

The above excerpted from the article.

I don't understand what they're talking about regarding: "and opened the permits to more convicted criminals"

Anyone have an idea as to what they're possibly referencing?
This is the lie. On the other hand, in Texas if one is convicted with Class A or Class B misdemeanor can lose his CHL for 5yrs.

So, if you have a Class C speeding ticket and you pay it, the NY author would label you as "convicted criminal" .
Just to play Devil's Advocate, wouldn't that be the case? While a Class C misdemeanor may be the lowest level of criminal offense in Texas, is it not still a criminal offense? While of course your conviction of a Class C misdemeanor will not cost you your CHL, does that mean you have not been convicted of a criminal offense?

Jim
I believe that you are correct. That is why people use the term "convicted felon" rather than "convicted criminal".
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b322da wrote: Just to play Devil's Advocate, wouldn't that be the case? While a Class C misdemeanor may be the lowest level of criminal offense in Texas, is it not still a criminal offense? While of course your conviction of a Class C misdemeanor will not cost you your CHL, does that mean you have not been convicted of a criminal offense?
Of course, last I looked it read "shall not be infringed", not "shall not be infringed except for convicted criminals". :mrgreen:
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b322da wrote:
Beiruty wrote:
Abraham wrote:"Texas eased requirements for carrying a concealed weapon, and opened the permits to more convicted criminals"

The above excerpted from the article.

I don't understand what they're talking about regarding: "and opened the permits to more convicted criminals"

Anyone have an idea as to what they're possibly referencing?
This is the lie. On the other hand, in Texas if one is convicted with Class A or Class B misdemeanor can lose his CHL for 5yrs.

So, if you have a Class C speeding ticket and you pay it, the NY author would label you as "convicted criminal" .
Just to play Devil's Advocate, wouldn't that be the case? While a Class C misdemeanor may be the lowest level of criminal offense in Texas, is it not still a criminal offense? While of course your conviction of a Class C misdemeanor will not cost you your CHL, does that mean you have not been convicted of a criminal offense?

Jim
In my eyes, speeding ticket (not-involving an accident) should be civil matter pay a fine and that is it. Have you seen someone go to jail for a speeding infraction?
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Beiruty wrote:Have you seen someone go to jail for a speeding infraction?
Yes.
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Beiruty wrote:Why NY Times has to lie about Texas?!!!
Texas eased requirements for carrying a concealed weapon, and opened the permits to more convicted criminals.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/opinion/year ... z2nS6tMGw4" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
FYI, that article was from the NY Daily News, which has looser editorial standards than the NYT. Neither of them are any kind of great, but, the Daily is one step above "the Enquirer".
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JALLEN wrote:but its a free press
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