Had a student (paramedic) getting his CHL. He was in a hurry. He said they had passed a law that emergency medical personnel could carry if they had a CHL and were approved by their employer in counties under 50k pop. I had never heard that and I thought I kept up w/CHL laws.
AFAIK, they could already carry everywhere if their employer did not object. (Might have a problem at some hospitals but I suspect most hospitals do not have 30.06 signs in the ambulance bays. :) )
New law???
Moderators: carlson1, Crossfire
Re: New law???
News to me. I think he might be confused or misinformed or both.
Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid.
John Wayne
NRA Lifetime member
John Wayne
NRA Lifetime member
Re: New law???
This is the bill he is referring to I think. Don't recall such a bill passing
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/83 ... 01531I.htm
83R5731 AJZ-D
By: King of Hemphill H.B. No. 1531
A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
AN ACT
relating to the application of certain weapons laws to certain
emergency services personnel licensed to carry a concealed handgun.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Section 1.07(a), Penal Code, is amended by
adding Subdivision (22-a) to read as follows:
(22-a) "Emergency services personnel" includes
firefighters, emergency medical services personnel as defined by
Section 773.003, Health and Safety Code, and other individuals who,
in the course and scope of employment or as a volunteer, provide
services for the benefit of the general public during emergency
situations.
SECTION 2. Section 30.06(e), Penal Code, is amended to read
as follows:
(e) It is an exception to the application of this section
that:
(1) the property on which the license holder carries a
handgun is owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a
premises or other place on which the license holder is prohibited
from carrying the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035; or
(2) the license holder is emergency services personnel
engaged in providing emergency services in a county with a
population of 50,000 or less.
SECTION 3. Section 46.035, Penal Code, is amended by adding
Subsection (l) to read as follows:
(l) Subsections (b) and (c) do not apply if the actor is
emergency services personnel engaged in providing emergency
services in a county with a population of 50,000 or less.
SECTION 4. Section 46.15(a), Penal Code, is amended to read
as follows:
(a) Sections 46.02 and 46.03 do not apply to:
(1) peace officers or special investigators under
Article 2.122, Code of Criminal Procedure, and neither section
prohibits a peace officer or special investigator from carrying a
weapon in this state, including in an establishment in this state
serving the public, regardless of whether the peace officer or
special investigator is engaged in the actual discharge of the
officer's or investigator's duties while carrying the weapon;
(2) parole officers and neither section prohibits an
officer from carrying a weapon in this state if the officer is:
(A) engaged in the actual discharge of the
officer's duties while carrying the weapon; and
(B) in compliance with policies and procedures
adopted by the Texas Department of Criminal Justice regarding the
possession of a weapon by an officer while on duty;
(3) community supervision and corrections department
officers appointed or employed under Section 76.004, Government
Code, and neither section prohibits an officer from carrying a
weapon in this state if the officer is:
(A) engaged in the actual discharge of the
officer's duties while carrying the weapon; and
(B) authorized to carry a weapon under Section
76.0051, Government Code;
(4) an active judicial officer as defined by Section
411.201, Government Code, who is licensed to carry a concealed
handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code;
(5) an honorably retired peace officer or federal
criminal investigator who holds a certificate of proficiency issued
under Section 1701.357, Occupations Code, and is carrying a photo
identification that:
(A) verifies that the officer honorably retired
after not less than 15 years of service as a commissioned officer;
and
(B) is issued by a state or local law enforcement
agency;
(6) a district attorney, criminal district attorney,
county attorney, or municipal attorney who is licensed to carry a
concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code;
(7) an assistant district attorney, assistant
criminal district attorney, or assistant county attorney who is
licensed to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter
411, Government Code;
(8) a bailiff designated by an active judicial officer
as defined by Section 411.201, Government Code, who is:
(A) licensed to carry a concealed handgun under
Chapter 411, Government Code; and
(B) engaged in escorting the judicial officer;
[or]
(9) a juvenile probation officer who is authorized to
carry a firearm under Section 142.006, Human Resources Code; or
(10) a person who is emergency services personnel if
the person is:
(A) licensed to carry a concealed handgun under
Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code; and
(B) engaged in providing emergency services in a
county with a population of 50,000 or less.
SECTION 5. Section 22.01(e)(1), Penal Code, is repealed.
SECTION 6. The change in law made by this Act applies only
to an offense committed on or after the effective date of this Act.
An offense committed before the effective date of this Act is
governed by the law in effect when the offense was committed, and
the former law is continued in effect for that purpose. For
purposes of this section, an offense was committed before the
effective date of this Act if any element of the offense occurred
before that date.
SECTION 7. This Act takes effect September 1, 2013.
http://www.legis.state.tx.us/tlodocs/83 ... 01531I.htm
83R5731 AJZ-D
By: King of Hemphill H.B. No. 1531
A BILL TO BE ENTITLED
AN ACT
relating to the application of certain weapons laws to certain
emergency services personnel licensed to carry a concealed handgun.
BE IT ENACTED BY THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE OF TEXAS:
SECTION 1. Section 1.07(a), Penal Code, is amended by
adding Subdivision (22-a) to read as follows:
(22-a) "Emergency services personnel" includes
firefighters, emergency medical services personnel as defined by
Section 773.003, Health and Safety Code, and other individuals who,
in the course and scope of employment or as a volunteer, provide
services for the benefit of the general public during emergency
situations.
SECTION 2. Section 30.06(e), Penal Code, is amended to read
as follows:
(e) It is an exception to the application of this section
that:
(1) the property on which the license holder carries a
handgun is owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a
premises or other place on which the license holder is prohibited
from carrying the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035; or
(2) the license holder is emergency services personnel
engaged in providing emergency services in a county with a
population of 50,000 or less.
SECTION 3. Section 46.035, Penal Code, is amended by adding
Subsection (l) to read as follows:
(l) Subsections (b) and (c) do not apply if the actor is
emergency services personnel engaged in providing emergency
services in a county with a population of 50,000 or less.
SECTION 4. Section 46.15(a), Penal Code, is amended to read
as follows:
(a) Sections 46.02 and 46.03 do not apply to:
(1) peace officers or special investigators under
Article 2.122, Code of Criminal Procedure, and neither section
prohibits a peace officer or special investigator from carrying a
weapon in this state, including in an establishment in this state
serving the public, regardless of whether the peace officer or
special investigator is engaged in the actual discharge of the
officer's or investigator's duties while carrying the weapon;
(2) parole officers and neither section prohibits an
officer from carrying a weapon in this state if the officer is:
(A) engaged in the actual discharge of the
officer's duties while carrying the weapon; and
(B) in compliance with policies and procedures
adopted by the Texas Department of Criminal Justice regarding the
possession of a weapon by an officer while on duty;
(3) community supervision and corrections department
officers appointed or employed under Section 76.004, Government
Code, and neither section prohibits an officer from carrying a
weapon in this state if the officer is:
(A) engaged in the actual discharge of the
officer's duties while carrying the weapon; and
(B) authorized to carry a weapon under Section
76.0051, Government Code;
(4) an active judicial officer as defined by Section
411.201, Government Code, who is licensed to carry a concealed
handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code;
(5) an honorably retired peace officer or federal
criminal investigator who holds a certificate of proficiency issued
under Section 1701.357, Occupations Code, and is carrying a photo
identification that:
(A) verifies that the officer honorably retired
after not less than 15 years of service as a commissioned officer;
and
(B) is issued by a state or local law enforcement
agency;
(6) a district attorney, criminal district attorney,
county attorney, or municipal attorney who is licensed to carry a
concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code;
(7) an assistant district attorney, assistant
criminal district attorney, or assistant county attorney who is
licensed to carry a concealed handgun under Subchapter H, Chapter
411, Government Code;
(8) a bailiff designated by an active judicial officer
as defined by Section 411.201, Government Code, who is:
(A) licensed to carry a concealed handgun under
Chapter 411, Government Code; and
(B) engaged in escorting the judicial officer;
[or]
(9) a juvenile probation officer who is authorized to
carry a firearm under Section 142.006, Human Resources Code; or
(10) a person who is emergency services personnel if
the person is:
(A) licensed to carry a concealed handgun under
Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code; and
(B) engaged in providing emergency services in a
county with a population of 50,000 or less.
SECTION 5. Section 22.01(e)(1), Penal Code, is repealed.
SECTION 6. The change in law made by this Act applies only
to an offense committed on or after the effective date of this Act.
An offense committed before the effective date of this Act is
governed by the law in effect when the offense was committed, and
the former law is continued in effect for that purpose. For
purposes of this section, an offense was committed before the
effective date of this Act if any element of the offense occurred
before that date.
SECTION 7. This Act takes effect September 1, 2013.
Life is tough, but it's tougher when you're stupid.
John Wayne
NRA Lifetime member
John Wayne
NRA Lifetime member
- Charles L. Cotton
- Site Admin
- Posts: 17788
- Joined: Wed Dec 22, 2004 9:31 pm
- Location: Friendswood, TX
- Contact:
Re: New law???
jmra is correct; it was HB1531 and it didn't pass. It was left pending in the House Homeland Security & Public Safety Committee. Liberal Democrat Chairman Pickett, appointed by Speaker Joe Straus, wouldn't let it come up for a vote in committee, along with all-important HB3218 and other pro-gun bills.
Chas.
Chas.
Re: New law???
Yeah, but trauma docs get mad at you if you leave the patient in the ambooo bay.switch wrote:Had a student (paramedic) getting his CHL. He was in a hurry. He said they had passed a law that emergency medical personnel could carry if they had a CHL and were approved by their employer in counties under 50k pop. I had never heard that and I thought I kept up w/CHL laws.
AFAIK, they could already carry everywhere if their employer did not object. (Might have a problem at some hospitals but I suspect most hospitals do not have 30.06 signs in the ambulance bays. :) )

NRA-Life member, NRA Instructor, NRA RSO, TSRA member,
Vietnam (AF) Veteran -- Amateur Extra class amateur radio operator: N5WD
Email: CHL@centurylink.net
Vietnam (AF) Veteran -- Amateur Extra class amateur radio operator: N5WD
Email: CHL@centurylink.net