Civil forfeiture

[seamusTX]

"Civil forfeiture" ... It wasn't until it started to be routinely used as another unconstitutional and corrupt method to collect revenue that it became an issue with most citizens.

I think it's still not an issue with most citizens. They don't realize that it hits innocent people, or at least people who can't be proven guilty of any crime. It certainly is not an issue that makes any candidate win or lose an election.

Until it is, the situation is not likely to change.

- Jim

[Liberty]

And civil forfeiture is not as easy to get as it sounds. Unless a judge wants to push the issue, it can be hard to prove. I personally know of a case where the individual spent 3 years in prison on a cocaine trafficking conviction. Just prior to being convicted, he had purchased a VERY large home, new vehicles, etc. About a year before that his business was struggling and he was on the verge of filing bankruptcy. During his time in the pen, his family lived in the house and drove the vehicles. He got out about 2 years ago and now has the house on the market and stands to come out clearing over half a million on the house.

It sounds like he still had enough money stashed away to be able to hire some good lawyers.

I think it depends on the state, Some states such as Louisianna seem to be able to do it at the drop of a hat. The Feds and other states not so easy.

[dukalmighty]

three parcels of real estate located in Baker Tax District, which includes Dingess' home, $2,016 in cash, a Chrysler 300M four-door sedan, a 2001 Honda 750 Shadow motorcycle, a 2004 Ford Ranger registered to Dingess Lumber Co. and 22 firearms including a Jennings .380 Caliber Model 48 with clip and one box of .380 ammo, a black case containing two handguns, one Sport Arms .22 Caliber Derringer, one Savage 7.65, one Winchester single shot 12 gauge, one 7.62 x 39 Yugo Rifle, one Winchester 38/55 Model 94, one Winchester 30/30 Model 94 Legendary Lawman, one Ruger .22 caliber Model 1022, one .22 caliber Marlin Model 60 with Bushnell Scope, one Browning 30-06 with Tasco scope, one Marlin .22 Caliber with Simmons Scope, one Remington .243 Caliber with scope, one Marlin 30/30 Model 336, one Remington 12 gauge Model 870, one Marlin 45/70 Model 1895SS Government with Golden Scope, one P Beretta Gardone VT 20 GA Model S685 Special, one 16 gauge Remington Sportsman 5B, one .50 caliber Springfield Hawken Black Powder muzzeloader, one Browning 12 gauge Light 12, one Night Vision scope by BAS and a .357 magnum Dan Wesson loaded with .38 caliber ammo.

Other items include a black case containing wireless camera surveillance equipment, security system, a pot containing loose change, a digital security system with recorder monitor and Sony Tritontron TV, a computer with computer accessories, two file boxes containing miscellaneous ammunition, a wireless video system and four surveillance cameras.

And a partridge in a pear tree