I shot a Glock and I liked it ...

[The Annoyed Man]

The motto at our church is, "you get what you pay for", so we all carry Sigs.

I had a Sig 1911 once. It was truly beautiful to look at. It was also an expensive worthless piece of junk. Sig may make other kinds of pistols well, but no more of their 1911s for me.

[glbedd53]

Yeah I've heard the same thing but I never got around to buying one of those. Maybe 1911 won't translate into German.

[longhorn_92]

I have heard the same things about Sig 1911's. I have stayed away from them however, their other handguns are awesome! BTW, Chris don't you have a Glock 19?...

[CC Italian]

Glocks just fire bullets, thats what they do. It might not be eye candy like the 1911s but it works. I was talking to an FFL about how mine always fires the other day. He says if a glock jams more then once on the range within the first 500 rounds its a lemon. Funny outlook but he is probalby right.

[glbedd53]

I guess I had 3 lemons

[03Lightningrocks]

I guess I had 3 lemons

I don't think I have ever had a Glock jam. I have owned many Glocks... since 1986... at least 20 of them in various calibers and models... Not one jam. I did have a limp wrist stove pipe once. It was 100% my fault...

I replaced a magazine release on my Glock 17 after about 5000 rounds. The magazines would occasionally fall out because the release was worn out.

Fifty years from now, they will be posting on a forum just like this and speaking reverently about how Glock was the greatest gun design ever created. Then some old guy will throw up that 1911 wasn't a bad design either but just couldn't live up to the Glock standard of excellence.

So it will be.... so it will come to pass.

[CC Italian]

Obviously he didn't mean they were lemons but he was making the point that it is not common.

[03Lightningrocks]

Obviously he didn't mean they were lemons but he was making the point that it is not common.

LOL... I am pretty sure we all drew the same conclusion as you.

[The Annoyed Man]

I have heard the same things about Sig 1911's. I have stayed away from them however, their other handguns are awesome! BTW, Chris don't you have a Glock 19?...

My wife has one. And actually, it's a pretty good pistol. I like it plenty. I just don't love it. I considered one in .45 ACP, but those were just too big for me, so then it boiled down to between an XD .45, and an M&P 45 - which is how I wound up with the M&P.

But you know me by now.... the 1911 is an affair of the heart, and I just can't pass up the opportunity to tease someone about liking Blocks... I mean, Glocks!

[Excaliber]

The second handgun I ever bought was a Remington Rand WWII government issue 1911 in great shape (I wish I had kept it). Since then I had a Llama .45, a Colt Combat Commander, a Colt National Match, and a Randall 1911 (the first stainless 1911 produced on CNC machinery), along with an assortment of S&W and Ruger autoloaders and revolvers .

All the .45's functioned pretty well, but were finicky with certain ammunition back in the days when guns were made to feed FMJ and defensive handgunners were feeding them hollowpoints. That was fixable back then by about a grand worth of custom gunsmithing, so as I got tired of each one's idiosyncracies, I sold it for something else.

Then in the mid 80's a friend who owned a gun store got me to look at the new wundernine Glock in his showcase. I turned up my nose at the "plastic gun" at first, but when I held it, and then field stripped it, I was blown away by the engineering and manufacturing that had obviously gone into it. I walked out of the store a Glock guy and carried various Glocks for about 10 years. They were built like tanks and always went "bang." They weren't guns that just feel natural in the hand, or that one could get really attached to, and they weren't the easiest things to conceal, but they did what they were designed for extremely well. I looked at them like the 20 year old beat up hammer on my workbench - not pretty but it never fails to perform when I reach for it.

Then I went to a gun show in Georgia and discovered Kimbers. That changed everything. There was a gun that was beautifully engineered and manufactured, also always went "bang," ate anything I fed it, felt absolutely natural in the hand, and concealed much more easily than the blocky Glock. I started selling off Glocks to buy more Kimbers, and now have one in each of the 3 major barrel lengths. I've never sold one off, and today I'm a happy man.

I would never disparage the Glock - they're great guns for reliability, capacity, and durability. But for me, they just don't feel "natural" in my hand. The 1911 feels like it's part of the hand.

Ya gotta feel it to understand.......

[PJK]

I am glad you liked shooting it. They may not be beautiful, but I agree that 50 years from now they will be talked about with the same reverence as the 1911 receives today.

To put it plainly, Glocks just work. I have just bought my 4th and have never had a failure in any one of them. Just last week my 34 came in, and within 30 minutes I was shooting IDPA with it. Having never fired the model before, I shot my best round ever. They put the shot where you point it.

I have a 1911 now and it is beautiful. I am sure that my assailant will stop and admire just how nice it as I am clearing the jam. That is what my 1911 does, jams all the time. I keep having it worked on and nothing fixes it. New sear spring, new magazines, polished ramp and extractor. It still jams at least once every 9 rounds. One day I will tweak it enough to be reliable, but until then I will never trust it as a carry gun. Maybe I need to buy a Kimber, but I can't seem to break down and pay 3 times the cost of a Glock for one.

There are lots of Glock haters on here, but not one of mine has ever failed or jammed. My 26 and 19 are my every day carry guns and I am good with being in the minority of Glock Lovers!

[The Annoyed Man]

There are lots of Glock haters on here, but not one of mine has ever failed or jammed. My 26 and 19 are my every day carry guns and I am good with being in the minority of Glock Lovers!

Guys like me don't hate Glocks. We just don't prefer them. But they do work. In my mind, I kind of think of it like aircraft. If we were talking about WW2 fighters, the Glock would be a P-47 "Jug." Utterly reliable and able to absorb massive punishment. Built like a tank. Honest, peasant simplicity. But utterly without gracefulness. The 1911 would be like a P-51 Mustang. Also reliable. But not as rugged. Complicated and sophisticated. And absolutely lasting beauty.

Both are excellent aircraft with distinguished service records. Both earned the well-deserved love of their pilots. But if you go to the Reno Air Races today, you'll still see P-51s running in the Unlimited class, where they rule. In contrast, there is only a small handfull of P-47s still flying, and none are being used for racing.

If the 1911 is Aragorn with a claymore, the Glock is an ogre with a large bat. Both will get the job done.

[03Lightningrocks]

If the 1911 is Aragorn with a claymore, the Glock is an ogre with a large bat. Both will get the job done.

[glbedd53]

Glock has had a pretty well documented history of problems , especially with Glock 21s like the one I have. The Portland Or. police dept had 2 different 21s blow up causing minor injuries. The NYPD and the LAPD are 2 others that malfunctioning problems with 21s and 19s and others I think. I don't know how or if they were resolved but at different times the officers were told to stop using the Glocks. I don't know if they still use them or something else. About 10 years ago my neighbor, a Pasadena cop said all of their Glock .40s were being updated by their own armorer, can't remember what the problem was. I remember because he offered to take mine and have it done too. Mine has a sticker on the box that says updated 12/93 from when I sent it back because of jamming problems. My concern is that if there have been fixes for all the problems over the years should mine have been fixed too.

[G26ster]

Glock has had a pretty well documented history of problems , especially with Glock 21s like the one I have. The Portland Or. police dept had 2 different 21s blow up causing minor injuries. The NYPD and the LAPD are 2 others that malfunctioning problems with 21s and 19s and others I think. I don't know how or if they were resolved but at different times the officers were told to stop using the Glocks. I don't know if they still use them or something else. About 10 years ago my neighbor, a Pasadena cop said all of their Glock .40s were being updated by their own armorer, can't remember what the problem was. I remember because he offered to take mine and have it done too. Mine has a sticker on the box that says updated 12/93 from when I sent it back because of jamming problems. My concern is that if there have been fixes for all the problems over the years should mine have been fixed too.

Call Glock CS and explain. I bet if there should have been upgrades made they will do it for you now.