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loadedliberal wrote:How exactly was I blaming Bush for what Obama was doing in his twenties. I was comparing the lack of outrage when there was a Republican in office compared to a Democrat. Bush increased spending as well, where was the outrage. It was the same way with Reagan he raised taxes yet he is a conservative icon. It's not aboot Obama or Bush it's about the selective outrage of the right.

I don't think anyone said you were blaming Bush for what Obama did, but it was irrelevant to the comparison of Perry and Obama.

Bush (W.) increased spending to combat terrorism and protect our country and rebuild our military after being gutted by democrats. Reagan increased spending and taxes to rebuild our military after being gutted by democrats. Obama has already cancelled all further construction of the F-22 Raptor. Although the F-15 Eagle is still one of if not the best in the world it is aging and falling behind technologically. In all head to head tests, the Raptor destroys the Eagle even when there are multiple Eagles against one Raptor. He outs SEAL Team 6!

Obama says he will not increased taxes except for those earning greater than $250k, but places regulations in effect that make everyone's energy and food costs go through the roof. He does not want to increase spending to make our nation stronger. He wants to increase spending and taxes to impose further regulations that limit our freedoms and give (redistribute wealth) money to those who already do little to nothing for our nation except drain it of it's resources. I think it is more about what Bush and Reagan did with the money compared to Obama. Bush and Reagan did it to protect and strengthen our nation and what Obama is doing is weakening our nation.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:
You liberals just can't get away from blaming Bush for everything. Every time one of Obama's many shortcoming or lies is brought up, you guys have to try to compare it with Bush. No one is buying that stuff anymore, so why keep trying? This thread is about Obama and Perry, yet you have to bring up Bush. This is so transparent you'd think you guys would give up.

It's one thing to disagree on issues, but this garbage really gets old.

Chas.

It's an old liberal tactic... If you don't like the conversation, throw out a red herring to derail it.

Apparently it still works.

Charles L. Cotton wrote:

loadedliberal wrote:I wasn't blaming Bush I was saying when it was Bush Republicans would defend him and when it's Obama they can't attack him fast enough. I am not the only on guilty of using a past Presidents failings when confronted with the current Presidents failings. I remember they GOP cry of "but look what Clinton did" for some time after the Bush administration was underway. I cannot defend mt statement on really anything, but there are stories floating around. The same way there is no proof that Obama was born anywhere but Hawaii yet a majority on the right still have "doubts".

Of course you are. Bush has nothing to do with a thread comparing Perry with Obama, but you had to go to the Democrat/liberal/"progressive" playbook and start talking about Bush. Liberals are an ever-shrinking political faction because they have no credibility whatsoever.

Chas.

I agree with Mr. Cotton, but refuse to comment due to the troll like behavior of our resident Leftist.
Disagree with a position, but make an argument already, please.

Back to the thread, (and thanks for calling it like it is Mr. Cotton)

Perry's public service record is lengthy and I may not agree with all of his actions,
But I have heard him admit a mistake when he realized he had made one. Several times.

Obama likes to claim he was "present"
And it's always someone Else's fault.

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Perry's school record is available.

Obama's is a mystery.

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Perry has demonstrated that he can create an environment where jobs can be created.
10 yrs worth and over half of the jobs created in the Nation.

Obama came into office promising "Gloom and Doom" and he made good on his prophecies
with Czars, regulation, Health care mandates, and ...............

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We have given obama a huge chance considering his qualifications.
I will vote for ANYONE who has actual experience outside of the Faculty Lounge and
Saul Alinsky's playbook.

At the risk of having many hoots of derision being heaped upon my graying head, I seem to recall this same picture being circulated in '08 except that John McCain was the courageous fearless flying defender of our freedoms as opposed to the other guy smoking a Kool.

I posted this before, I think, but here goes again...Governor Perry served in the USAF during the 1970s as a pilot, primarily flying C-130 cargo aircraft. As someone who maintained and rode around on them for a few years, I can tell you they are both a workhorse and a lot of work...its a plane that requires a SERIOUS teamwork mentality...and that sort of thing sticks with you a LONG time, if not a LIFETIME.

Oldgringo wrote:At the risk of having many hoots of derision being heaped upon my graying head, I seem to recall this same picture being circulated in '08 except that John McCain was the courageous fearless flying defender of our freedoms as opposed to the other guy smoking a Kool.

AND if folks would have paid attention to that picture, we might have been in just a little bit better shape now, don't you think?

Heartland Patriot wrote:

Oldgringo wrote:At the risk of having many hoots of derision being heaped upon my graying head, I seem to recall this same picture being circulated in '08 except that John McCain was the courageous fearless flying defender of our freedoms as opposed to the other guy smoking a Kool.

AND if folks would have paid attention to that picture, we might have been in just a little bit better shape now, don't you think?

We'll never know, will we?

2up1down wrote:I agree with Mr. Cotton, but refuse to comment due to the troll like behavior of our resident Leftist.

I agree with Charles also, but I'm not going to call loadedliberal a "troll." He contributes far too much to most of the threads here to have that kind of abuse heaped on him. I think he's wrong, but that doesn't make him a troll.

The Annoyed Man wrote:

2up1down wrote:I agree with Mr. Cotton, but refuse to comment due to the troll like behavior of our resident Leftist.

I agree with Charles also, but I'm not going to call loadedliberal a "troll." He contributes far too much to most of the threads here to have that kind of abuse heaped on him. I think he's wrong, but that doesn't make him a troll.

TAM you were right, I did not intend to degrade Bush's military service, I had forgotten about it and made a mistake. As to 2up1down, how am I a leftist when I am voting for Perry? I am a liberal and I know I get on y'alls nerves at times but to call me a troll and leftist which I assume both were meant as insults, is too much. I try to refrain from making accusations which I cannot prove and was trying to make a point of selective outrage, I went too far in my post making statements which I could not prove, I admit that. I hate hypocrisy and liars weather they are Republican or Democrat. It gets really old seeing every nit pick attack on Obama and when I think it is nessacary I will defend him the same way I defended Bush when many I knew came down with Bush derangement syndrome and seemed to attack everything about Bush. It is not productive to make such attacks as there are many issues where Obama could be attacked for his youth for the most part is not one of them.

Perry was an Aggie, and in the Corps. What more could someone ask for. I'd be happy with Perry or Paul.

loadedliberal wrote:I hate hypocrisy and liars weather they are Republican or Democrat. It gets really old seeing every nit pick attack on Obama and when I think it is nessacary I will defend him the same way I defended Bush when many I knew came down with Bush derangement syndrome and seemed to attack everything about Bush. It is not productive to make such attacks as there are many issues where Obama could be attacked for his youth for the most part is not one of them.

Wow. Sorry, dude.

I can't figure out what you're trying to say. I read it several times, and I'm still confused. The misspellings and syntax errors have me confused.

I have an MA in English, but I'm just a humble product of public schools...like Rick Perry.

Skiprr wrote:

I hate hypocrisy and liars weather they are Republican or Democrat. It gets really old seeing every nit pick attack on Obama and when I think it is nessacary I will defend him the same way I defended Bush when many I knew came down with Bush derangement syndrome and seemed to attack everything about Bush. It is not productive to make such attacks as there are many issues where Obama could be attacked for his youth for the most part is not one of them.

Wow. Sorry, dude.

I can't figure out what you're trying to say. I read it several times, and I'm still confused. The misspellings and syntax errors have me confused.

I have an MA in English, but I'm just a humble product of public schools...like Rick Perry.

Sorry, I have been at work all day and my typing skills have suffered.

"...I cannot defend my statement on really anything, but there are stories floating around."... Here we have a basic, foundational liberal nugget of wisdom...

I'm not a fan of either, but I bet the Texas border will be more secure with ol' Perry in office.

Perry generally does what se says he's going to, unlike some others...