Ray Rosas found not guilty for shooting in no knock raid
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Re: Ray Rosas found not guilty for shooting in no knock raid
I don't understand the zeal of law enforcement regarding mari-hoochie.
It's legal in many states with more willing to legalize, (yeah, yeah, I know about the Federal law, but it obviously isn't being enforced, so...) so what's with over the top No Knock tactics when it comes to weed?
Does putting law enforcement and civilians at risk of dying for something legal in other states make sense?
Or, is this a path law enforcement just can't get off of?
My point: Violently pursuing weed scofflaws isn't worth putting an officer or civilians life at risk. Even where it's against the law, it's pretty minor stuff in the grand scheme of crime. In all likely hood it'll be legalized in every state eventually.
It's legal in many states with more willing to legalize, (yeah, yeah, I know about the Federal law, but it obviously isn't being enforced, so...) so what's with over the top No Knock tactics when it comes to weed?
Does putting law enforcement and civilians at risk of dying for something legal in other states make sense?
Or, is this a path law enforcement just can't get off of?
My point: Violently pursuing weed scofflaws isn't worth putting an officer or civilians life at risk. Even where it's against the law, it's pretty minor stuff in the grand scheme of crime. In all likely hood it'll be legalized in every state eventually.
Re: Ray Rosas found not guilty for shooting in no knock raid
You may be right about legalization in more states but I think Texas has a way to go. You know, technically you can't buy a firearm if you use MJ even for medicinal purposes. The feds will have to take this out of the controlled drug list before any state laws are really legitimate. Let's see what Trump people do. I personally don't want to see more intoxicated drivers on the highways. What an adult does in the privacy of their home ( and not outside their home ) is their business. As long as I don't have to pay for it.Abraham wrote:I don't understand the zeal of law enforcement regarding mari-hoochie.
It's legal in many states with more willing to legalize, (yeah, yeah, I know about the Federal law, but it obviously isn't being enforced, so...) so what's with over the top No Knock tactics when it comes to weed?
Does putting law enforcement and civilians at risk of dying for something legal in other states make sense?
Or, is this a path law enforcement just can't get off of?
My point: Violently pursuing weed scofflaws isn't worth putting an officer or civilians life at risk. Even where it's against the law, it's pretty minor stuff in the grand scheme of crime. In all likely hood it'll be legalized in every state eventually.
Re: Ray Rosas found not guilty for shooting in no knock raid
I doubt the states legalizing weed allows drivers/pilots/train engineers, etc to be under the influence of weed.
I would guess there are harsh penalties for weed dui.
Maybe, some here are more knowledgable about it...
I would guess there are harsh penalties for weed dui.
Maybe, some here are more knowledgable about it...
Re: Ray Rosas found not guilty for shooting in no knock raid
If society is concerned about highway safety, we need to encourage police to target the dangerous drivers instead of the low hanging fruit. For example, where the Southwest Freeway intersects 610, people in a non-exit lane come to a complete stop with depraved indifference to the safety of others, to selfishly cut into the exit lanes. Those drivers are much more dangerous than a driver cruising at 70, or even 80, in the left lane.
Pull over dangerous drivers and have enhanced penalty if they're intoxicated. No difference if it's alcohol, medical marijuana, recrational marijuana, cold medicine, etc.
Which is a separate issue from armed break-ins to somebody's home to arrest a suspect who isn't there.
Pull over dangerous drivers and have enhanced penalty if they're intoxicated. No difference if it's alcohol, medical marijuana, recrational marijuana, cold medicine, etc.
Which is a separate issue from armed break-ins to somebody's home to arrest a suspect who isn't there.
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Re: Ray Rosas found not guilty for shooting in no knock raid
I'm not sure there are harsher penalties for someone under the influence of substances other than alcohol. I only think this regarding those states that have changed DWI (Driving While Intoxicated) to DUI (Driving Under the Influence) and those that only have DUI. For states that still have both there could be different levels of penalties.Abraham wrote:I doubt the states legalizing weed allows drivers/pilots/train engineers, etc to be under the influence of weed.
I would guess there are harsh penalties for weed dui.
Maybe, some here are more knowledgable about it...
However, this is just my uneducated opinion on the subject since I have no first hand knowledge of either of these offenses.
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Re: Ray Rosas found not guilty for shooting in no knock raid
Right. If you lie on the 4473, it's a federal offense, perhaps a felony (I don't recall).rotor wrote:You may be right about legalization in more states but I think Texas has a way to go. You know, technically you can't buy a firearm if you use MJ even for medicinal purposes.Abraham wrote:I don't understand the zeal of law enforcement regarding mari-hoochie.
It's legal in many states with more willing to legalize, (yeah, yeah, I know about the Federal law, but it obviously isn't being enforced, so...) so what's with over the top No Knock tactics when it comes to weed?
Does putting law enforcement and civilians at risk of dying for something legal in other states make sense?
Or, is this a path law enforcement just can't get off of?
My point: Violently pursuing weed scofflaws isn't worth putting an officer or civilians life at risk. Even where it's against the law, it's pretty minor stuff in the grand scheme of crime. In all likely hood it'll be legalized in every state eventually.
I agree that the war on drugs has failed. I think no-knock entries should be unlawful except when explosives are at issue. All that said, for some to argue that marijuana is harmless is absurd.
Chas.
Re: Ray Rosas found not guilty for shooting in no knock raid
The 4473 asks if you are a "current" unlawful user of... Essentially impossible to prove without giving you a drug test on the day you buy it. Or the FFL may presume it from your possession of a Medical Marajuana Card in those states that issue them. But once you take it home it's not illegal to possess. So maybe you started smoking rope after you bought it. Then before you buy your next gun you quit, then start again after you buy it.
Once they're done legalizing weed, we really need them to move on to cocaine, meth, heroin, flakka and other synthetic cathinones, and then to get rid of the prescription requirement for everything else. Maybe after we repeal 18 USC 922o first.

Once they're done legalizing weed, we really need them to move on to cocaine, meth, heroin, flakka and other synthetic cathinones, and then to get rid of the prescription requirement for everything else. Maybe after we repeal 18 USC 922o first.

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Re: Ray Rosas found not guilty for shooting in no knock raid
I believe it is a Federal crime to possess marijuana.ScottDLS wrote:The 4473 asks if you are a "current" unlawful user of... Essentially impossible to prove without giving you a drug test on the day you buy it. Or the FFL may presume it from your possession of a Medical Marajuana Card in those states that issue them. But once you take it home it's not illegal to possess. So maybe you started smoking rope after you bought it. Then before you buy your next gun you quit, then start again after you buy it.![]()
Once they're done legalizing weed, we really need them to move on to cocaine, meth, heroin, flakka and other synthetic cathinones, and then to get rid of the prescription requirement for everything else. Maybe after we repeal 18 USC 922o first.
http://norml.org/laws/item/federal-penalties-2
Re: Ray Rosas found not guilty for shooting in no knock raid
Yes a federal misdemeanor and unrelated to firearm possession. If you don't lie on the 4473 you're not committing a crime by buying the gun.rotor wrote:I believe it is a Federal crime to possess marijuana.ScottDLS wrote:The 4473 asks if you are a "current" unlawful user of... Essentially impossible to prove without giving you a drug test on the day you buy it. Or the FFL may presume it from your possession of a Medical Marajuana Card in those states that issue them. But once you take it home it's not illegal to possess. So maybe you started smoking rope after you bought it. Then before you buy your next gun you quit, then start again after you buy it.![]()
Once they're done legalizing weed, we really need them to move on to cocaine, meth, heroin, flakka and other synthetic cathinones, and then to get rid of the prescription requirement for everything else. Maybe after we repeal 18 USC 922o first.
http://norml.org/laws/item/federal-penalties-2
Now driving through a school zone with a rifle....Felony...

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Re: Ray Rosas found not guilty for shooting in no knock raid
I figure the odds of getting prosecuted for possession of marijuana are more likely than the odds of getting prosecuted for lying on a 4473 form.