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I've been carrying Federal HST that I buy from Target Sports USA, but hearing all this about the Golden Saber is intriguing. Will have to buy a couple of boxes and try it in my M&P 9's.

Speaking of more classic HP rounds, I noticed on the SHOT show coverage that Federal is rolling out a 135 grain 9mm Hydroshock round.

Lee Jurras ammo was very good. We shot some of his 170 GR in a 45 sub gun and cycle rate I bet jumped 25% at least, I still have some of that box of 45. I imagine Lee has passed by now I do wonder who is going to adapt that ammo brand and what it will be. He was famous for very high velocity and light expanding bullets.

Charles:
https://www.supervelammunition.com/

Glock 17 almost 1600 fps

Same yellow box you will remember it.