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in no way have i claimed to be an economist
but i did pass economics in high school witch for me was not so long ago
i think th government needs to get its hand out of our gas and bring back leaded and drill everywhere
so what if theres sulfur lets burn it up too
im just a dumb mechanic thats trying to become a cop but at this rate people will just stop working and stop paying their bills and get back to the basics really soon

lunchbox wrote:but at this rate people will just stop working and stop paying their bills

You really should read Atlas Shrugged. I have a copy I will loan you.

You will be amazed at what you read in the book and what is going on right now. The book was written in the early 1950s.

Anygunanywhere

ok when can i get it from you

PM sent.

let me first say im not for mass murder of the jews or any other group


that being said how did Hitler pull germany out of worse circumstances than what we face now and in a short time i might add
if he can do it why cant we get someone to do it again for us

lunchbox wrote:let me first say im not for mass murder of the jews or any other group


that being said how did Hitler pull germany out of worse circumstances than what we face now and in a short time i might add
if he can do it why cant we get someone to do it again for us

Well, he did like how our own government is trying to do it now. Take absolute control of everything and crush anybody who is against you.

I'm just staring at this thread dumbfounded that you do not understand what's happening right now.

Blaming the oil companies for making money is not the answer, no matter what your "economy" class told you. I'm amazed gas has been so cheap for so long. Google, Yahoo, and Microsoft make more money percentage-wise then the oil companies. I'm sure Wal-Mart makes a lot more money then you think.

flb_78 wrote:

lunchbox wrote:let me first say im not for mass murder of the jews or any other group


that being said how did Hitler pull germany out of worse circumstances than what we face now and in a short time i might add
if he can do it why cant we get someone to do it again for us

Well, he did like how our own government is trying to do it now. Take absolute control of everything and crush anybody who is against you.

I'm just staring at this thread dumbfounded that you do not understand what's happening right now.

Blaming the oil companies for making money is not the answer, no matter what your "economy" class told you. I'm amazed gas has been so cheap for so long. Google, Yahoo, and Microsoft make more money percentage-wise then the oil companies. I'm sure Wal-Mart makes a lot more money then you think.

i never said oil was the root cause
but its sure not helping me any
everyone seems to be focusing on the price of gas and thats only one of the things listed

lunchbox wrote: i never said oil was the root cause
but its sure not helping me any
everyone seems to be focusing on the price of gas and thats only one of the things listed

You brought it up, in follow-ups. Actually I gave you examples of what is responsible for all of the things you listed and you responded only about "not buying supply and demand" with respect to oil prices. That's where this debate started. Pay attention and maybe you'll realize that it is in fact supply and demand and there is a trend that can't be stopped so you need to adapt.

"it's not helping me any"?

mr.72 wrote:

lunchbox wrote: i never said oil was the root cause
but its sure not helping me any
everyone seems to be focusing on the price of gas and thats only one of the things listed

You brought it up, in follow-ups. Actually I gave you examples of what is responsible for all of the things you listed and you responded only about "not buying supply and demand" with respect to oil prices. That's where this debate started. Pay attention and maybe you'll realize that it is in fact supply and demand and there is a trend that can't be stopped so you need to adapt.

"it's not helping me any"?

+1, I also gave examples of who was responsible for all of the things you listed, and you passed over it and concentrated on gas prices.

Well there is a guy who actually is offering a viable solution

Maybe you have heard of him T. Boone Pickens

He calls it Yhe Pickens Plan

Watch some of his videos...what he is saying is 100% true

IT'S TIME TO STOP AMERICA'S ADDICTION TO FOREIGN OIL

America is in a hole and it's getting deeper every day. We import 70% of our oil at a cost of $700 billion a year - four times the annual cost of the Iraq war.

I've been an oil man all my life, but this is one emergency we can't drill our way out of. But if we create a new renewable energy network, we can break our addiction to foreign oil.

On January 20, 2009, a new President gets sworn in. If we're organized, we can convince Congress to make major changes towards cleaner, cheaper and domestic energy resources.

He isn't a greenie, he sees a future of this country as bankrupt...lets hope enough people get on board and force our "leaders" to listen and take heed, otherwise like he said it will be the largest transfer of wealth the world has ever seen!

Im not a T. Boone Pickens fan. I don't think his "solutions" are the right ones. He wants to harness more wind and solar power and then use natural gas to run automobiles. He's doesn't care about the environment or national security. He's in it for the money, lot's and lot's and lot's of money and that's how he has lived his entire life. Make money at any cost no matter who you step on.

I don't know that I buy T. Boone Pickens's plan either but at least it's an idea. I think wind and solar are a lost cause for a number of reasons and the real answer is nuclear power for everything including automobiles (via electricity). A little bit of thermodynamics might inform you that removing active energy (kinetic, thermal) from the environment through solar and wind power generators on a large scale is going to have some net effect on the environment as a whole. The answer is nuclear power.

WarHawk-AVG wrote:
Watch some of his videos...what he is saying is 100% true

Sorry. No offense, but I am not chugging that kool-aid either.

He claims we can't "drill our way out of this problem".

That is the demokrat congressional line and it is not the truth.

Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid are not geologists and are not looking at seismic studies of the oil leases the companies hold. Anyone who actually thinks that an oil company would sit on a lease knowing there are recovaerable barrels and ignore them is a fool. The number of rigs offshore Louisiana and Texas is proof of that.

My brother works offshore for BP on the Mad Dog. He is going to transfer to a rig that BP is building for offshore ANGOLA.

Angola. Lovely place.

Anygunanywhere

i agree the oil is there we just need congress to let them go get it
i was in Alaska and tolked to tons of folks in the oil fields and they all told me its there but they are not able to drill where they like

Oil prices go up for the same reasons ammo prices go up.