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Re: Dog shot at Houston Dog Park
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:26 pm
by SA_Steve
First reports said he shot the dog three times
did that wind up being the truth ?
once or twice ought to be enough
Re: Dog shot at Houston Dog Park
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 12:45 pm
by Abraham
SA_Steve,
Yes, you would think so, however I saw a video of two German policemen repeatedly shoot a pit bull with 9mm pistols without it dropping immediately.
It was horror to watch.
They finally managed to kill it, but it took them many, many shots to do so.
Re: Dog shot at Houston Dog Park
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 1:08 pm
by E.Marquez
I've been bit more then a few times breaking up dog fights, my own dogs and others.
Short of a dog attacking a human at the park i go to, I cant see the need. but of course I was not there, and perception of the individual is a valid reason to do things/.
Re: Dog shot at Houston Dog Park
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 5:31 pm
by ScooterSissy
MotherBear wrote:The last thing she expected was the other woman to get her gun back.
"We can't have that kind of lawlessness in our public parks," said the woman who illegally had her dog off-leash in a public park.
Fixed it for them. Somehow they missed the irony.
To be clear, I don't think it's open season on illegally unleashed dogs, but those laws exist for a reason and choosing to disobey them is asking for trouble. I don't mind off-leash dogs who are fully under their owners' control, but that's not what I'm seeing here -- and regardless of my personal opinion, it's still illegal. I've known dogs well enough trained to heel right at their owner's side without a leash being necessary. But most dogs I see, especially large ones, aren't even under control when on a leash. And obviously this one wasn't that well trained, if the owner was afraid to walk down the stairs while holding the leash.
I noticed the same thing (though your method of drawing attention is far better than mine).
I thought "the only lawlessness was you letting your dog run unleashed".
Re: Dog shot at Houston Dog Park
Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2015 7:32 pm
by LDB415
Can one use a stun gun on a dog without killing it? Seems like that and pepper spray would often be adequate.
Re: Dog shot at Houston Dog Park
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 9:53 am
by bigity
This is a tough one with second hand accounts.
I love dogs, whatever breed, but I've been petting a calm dog and then suddenly trying to get my hand out of it's mouth before I lost fingers or had bones broken (it was a old lab that knew me, I think a passing chow set it off).
Re: Dog shot at Houston Dog Park
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 11:51 am
by MeMelYup
I would not use a stun gun on an enraged dog as it would add to the problem and feed the rage. An e-collar is an electric remote collar used for training. I have seen two dogs really get into it wearing e-collars and the collar being activated adds to the confusion and rage of the dog.
The time to use the e-collar is when the dog first fixes on the subject. They are worthless for training wives.

Re: Dog shot at Houston Dog Park
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 1:20 pm
by Cedar Park Dad
Aren't stun guns and Ecollars very different things though?
Re: Dog shot at Houston Dog Park
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 3:38 pm
by Abraham
LDB415,
I have a great deal of experience pepper spraying attacking dogs.
It works MOST of the time...
Re: Dog shot at Houston Dog Park
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 7:15 pm
by MeMelYup
Cedar Park Dad wrote:Aren't stun guns and Ecollars very different things though?
Yes, but they both work with passing an electrical current through a part of the body. The e-collar uses a vibrate or slight charge that causes a tingle. The charge is adjustable and when turned up to max is about like grabbing a weed burner fence.
Re: Dog shot at Houston Dog Park
Posted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:36 pm
by Right2Carry
If owners would control their dogs on and off the leash this would be a non issue!
Re: Dog shot at Houston Dog Park
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:13 am
by philip964
http://www.click2houston.com/news/charg ... k/31698360" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Dog Park shooter charged with cruelty to a non livestock animal.
"Animal abuse is a serious offense that will not be tolerated,” said Harris County District Attorney Devon Anderson in a press release. “We take all allegations of cruelty to animals very seriously and pursue charges whenever appropriate."
Re: Dog shot at Houston Dog Park
Posted: Tue Mar 10, 2015 8:01 am
by C-dub
Cedar Park Dad wrote:Aren't stun guns and Ecollars very different things though?
They are. I have no experience with stun guns on people or animals. However, I have a lot of experience with the other having trained many dogs for tracking, obedience, and protection. An electric shock collar is a training device that in order to get the desired effect/result must be used that way. To suddenly zap a dog with one when it is in or about to be in a dog fight, in most cases, will make the situation worse. The dog is likely to perceive the shock as an attack.
Re: Dog shot at Houston Dog Park
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 9:50 am
by Schooley
philip964 wrote:http://www.click2houston.com/news/charg ... k/31698360
Dog Park shooter charged with cruelty to a non livestock animal.
"Animal abuse is a serious offense that will not be tolerated,” said Harris County District Attorney Devon Anderson in a press release. “We take all allegations of cruelty to animals very seriously and pursue charges whenever appropriate."
I actually knew this guy, went to intermediate and high school with him. He had a real weird nervous "tick" where he would open his mouth (like someone trying to pop their ears) a lot especially if he was called upon by the teacher or if someone put him on the spot. Not sure if he should even be a CHL holder but I guess he wont be anymore
Seems like he had a predisposition to shoot a nuisance dog if it became an issue. From eyewitness accounts it sounds like he had his mind made up on killing the dog regardless if it was a threat or not.
Whats scary is his actions are now leading people to question if concealed handguns should be allowed at dog parks

Re: Dog shot at Houston Dog Park
Posted: Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:48 am
by C-dub
Schooley wrote:philip964 wrote:http://www.click2houston.com/news/charg ... k/31698360
Dog Park shooter charged with cruelty to a non livestock animal.
"Animal abuse is a serious offense that will not be tolerated,” said Harris County District Attorney Devon Anderson in a press release. “We take all allegations of cruelty to animals very seriously and pursue charges whenever appropriate."
I actually knew this guy, went to intermediate and high school with him. He had a real weird nervous "tick" where he would open his mouth (like someone trying to pop their ears) a lot especially if he was called upon by the teacher or if someone put him on the spot. Not sure if he should even be a CHL holder but I guess he wont be anymore
Seems like he had a predisposition to shoot a nuisance dog if it became an issue. From eyewitness accounts it sounds like he had his mind made up on killing the dog regardless if it was a threat or not.
Whats scary is his actions are now leading people to question if concealed handguns should be allowed at dog parks

IIRC, most dog parks are owned and maintained by the city. They won't have a choice in the matter when it comes to allowing CHLs or not.