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Re: New York Set to Pass New Restrictions
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:50 pm
by RoyGBiv
powerboatr wrote:New York's law will:
Ban possession of any high-capacity magazines regardless of when they were made or sold. Going forward, only clips able to hold up to seven rounds can be sold in the state. Clips able to hold 7-10 rounds can be possessed, but cannot be loaded with more than seven rounds. If an owner is found to have eight or more bullets in a magazine, he or she could face a misdemeanor charge.
If anyone is looking for THE rational response on the stupidity of magazine limits, here it is.
WARNING: Some language not appropriate for youngsters.
http://gunnuts.net/2013/01/11/who-needs ... 10-rounds/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: New York Set to Pass New Restrictions
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:30 pm
by grumble
Background checks now required for each and every ammunition purchase? NICS? So now that $11.99 box of TuLa is going to cost you $35?
Re: New York Set to Pass New Restrictions
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:31 pm
by chasfm11
RoyGBiv wrote:powerboatr wrote:New York's law will:
Ban possession of any high-capacity magazines regardless of when they were made or sold. Going forward, only clips able to hold up to seven rounds can be sold in the state. Clips able to hold 7-10 rounds can be possessed, but cannot be loaded with more than seven rounds. If an owner is found to have eight or more bullets in a magazine, he or she could face a misdemeanor charge.
If anyone is looking for THE rational response on the stupidity of magazine limits, here it is.
WARNING: Some language not appropriate for youngsters.
http://gunnuts.net/2013/01/11/who-needs ... 10-rounds/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
For me, this is a very telling statement. We all understand that no BG is going to worry about how many rounds are in his mag. We should also understand that only Elite friends of the Gov and NYC Mayor can get carry permits in NY so the target of this statement is the law-abiding citizens who have already had to get background checked, fingerprinted, etc in order to be able to get a permit to keep their guns in their houses. So is the NY Gestopo is going to be in charge of checking guns at people's homes to make sure that they only have 7 or less rounds?
Of course, this is the same State which has Stop and Frisk as a police operational procedure so obviously the Bill of Rights isn't a consideration for them.
Re: New York Set to Pass New Restrictions
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:26 pm
by benenglishtx
AndyC wrote:I bet the Fudds are now feeling some pain, too.
Good point.
Another approach to the "reasonable controls are OK" crowd is that the new NY law now defines all rifles and most pistols used by our Olympic team as "assault weapons". Perhaps there are a few undecided folks for whom that factoid might open their eyes a bit.
Re: New York Set to Pass New Restrictions
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:33 pm
by The Annoyed Man
The law passed, and here are some powerful words of protest from one of the legislators who voted against it:
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Re: New York Set to Pass New Restrictions
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:49 pm
by G26ster
The Annoyed Man wrote:The law passed, and here are some powerful words of protest from one of the legislators who voted against it:
Already running here:
http://texaschlforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=94&t=61645" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Re: New York Set to Pass New Restrictions
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 11:52 pm
by FishInTx
I lived and hunted in upstate NY. Beautiful area with great people. Unfortunately the cities are controlling them and polluting the area with laws and the liberal city dwellers themselves.
Glad I moved for work and decidied not to go back. My wife says I'm an Honorary Texan now.
Tying to get my kids to go to school and live in the Big Cities, to keep Texas RED!!
Re: New York Set to Pass New Restrictions
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 5:52 am
by RPB
The LIGHTER SIDE
Twitter hashtag
#SelfDefenseInNY
#SelfDefenseInNY: Choose your Cuomo-approved useless weapon
Posted at 12:29 am on January 16, 2013 by Twitchy Staff
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or
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#SelfDefenseInNY Slap your attacker in the face with a cat.
Michelle Malkin @michellemalkin
My favorite #SelfDefenseInNY "Call for help on the Obamaphone"
Kinsman @kinsman59
#SelfDefenseInNY... Just sing out..Stop! In the name of the law..before you break my heart
2nd Amendment @2ndAmendmnt
#SelfDefenseInNY -call 911, make sure to speak clearly so they can play a nice recording at ur funeral, try not to scream too much
End of the Republic @PointlessPol
#SelfDefenseInNY remind the criminal the gun he has is illegal and hand him some literature.
iSheeple @iSheeple1
#SelfDefenseInNY Shout and point to your "Gun Free Zone" sign.
End of the Republic @PointlessPol
#SelfDefenseInNY Scream out-loud "someone's smoking in public with a 20oz soda"
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Re: New York Set to Pass New Restrictions
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 7:59 am
by jimlongley
FishInTx wrote:I lived and hunted in upstate NY. Beautiful area with great people. Unfortunately the cities are controlling them and polluting the area with laws and the liberal city dwellers themselves.
Glad I moved for work and decidied not to go back. My wife says I'm an Honorary Texan now.
Tying to get my kids to go to school and live in the Big Cities, to keep Texas RED!!
I may have asked you before Fish, and if I did please forgive me, I lived and hunted in upstate myself, and covered from Nyack to Plattsburg as a telephone engineer. Where were you located?
Re: New York Set to Pass New Restrictions
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 8:05 am
by jimlongley
BTW, having actually read the new law, I find myself wondering what a "Muzzle Break" is. Has anyone here ever broken their muzzle? Is it some magical way of doing something to the muzzle in order to render it instantaneously more lethal. I know there is a sound alike word, but since legislatures know what they are talking about, I have to wonder what it is that they ARE talking about.
Pointing it out in my next letter to Andy, just for grins and giggles. No doubt he will use his executive power to amend the law.
Many decades ago NY State was on the verge of outlawing a cartoon character that had a name similar to some mythical Ninja implement, I still think it would have been neat to see what happened if the law passed.
Re: New York Set to Pass New Restrictions
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 9:15 am
by chasfm11
jimlongley wrote:BTW, having actually read the new law, I find myself wondering what a "Muzzle Break" is. Has anyone here ever broken their muzzle? Is it some magical way of doing something to the muzzle in order to render it instantaneously more lethal. I know there is a sound alike word, but since legislatures know what they are talking about, I have to wonder what it is that they ARE talking about.
Pointing it out in my next letter to Andy, just for grins and giggles. No doubt he will use his executive power to amend the law.
Many decades ago NY State was on the verge of outlawing a cartoon character that had a name similar to some mythical Ninja implement, I still think it would have been neat to see what happened if the law passed.
I have an e-mail from a one of my distribution groups about provisions in the law. Specifically:
1. The registration fee is $147 for all firearms owners
2. Registered assault rifles become the property of the State upon the death of the original person who registered it.
Can you confirm from your reading of the law?
Re: New York Set to Pass New Restrictions
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:20 am
by VMI77
jimlongley wrote:BTW, having actually read the new law, I find myself wondering what a "Muzzle Break" is. Has anyone here ever broken their muzzle? Is it some magical way of doing something to the muzzle in order to render it instantaneously more lethal. I know there is a sound alike word, but since legislatures know what they are talking about, I have to wonder what it is that they ARE talking about.
Pointing it out in my next letter to Andy, just for grins and giggles. No doubt he will use his executive power to amend the law.
Many decades ago NY State was on the verge of outlawing a cartoon character that had a name similar to some mythical Ninja implement, I still think it would have been neat to see what happened if the law passed.
They're probably referring to a device that directs gases from the muzzle to counter the rise of the barrel from recoil. So, effectively, the law prohibits someone from shooting more accurately....they apparently want more bystanders to take a few rounds.
Re: New York Set to Pass New Restrictions
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:27 am
by anygunanywhere
VMI77 wrote:jimlongley wrote:BTW, having actually read the new law, I find myself wondering what a "Muzzle Break" is. Has anyone here ever broken their muzzle? Is it some magical way of doing something to the muzzle in order to render it instantaneously more lethal. I know there is a sound alike word, but since legislatures know what they are talking about, I have to wonder what it is that they ARE talking about.
Pointing it out in my next letter to Andy, just for grins and giggles. No doubt he will use his executive power to amend the law.
Many decades ago NY State was on the verge of outlawing a cartoon character that had a name similar to some mythical Ninja implement, I still think it would have been neat to see what happened if the law passed.
They're probably referring to a device that directs gases from the muzzle to counter the rise of the barrel from recoil. So, effectively, the law prohibits someone from shooting more accurately....they apparently want more bystanders to take a few rounds.
Methinks Jim is referring to the spelling error in the legislation.
Many of us have firearms with "muzzle brakes".
I don't recall ever seeing a "muzzle break".
Just goes to prove the antis have not got a clue what is going on.
Anygunanywhere
Re: New York Set to Pass New Restrictions
Posted: Wed Jan 16, 2013 11:33 am
by canvasbck
Maybe a muzzle break is one of those shoulder things that goes up.
