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I'd argue it's more of a cultural issue fostering a religion as justification for such actions.

Exodus 21:24 touts an eye for an eye but I don't think many christians would cite that as grounds for such retribution. Not because of their religious beliefs alone but because of the cultures they live in.

Religion is no more peaceful or evil than your gun is in of itself. People carry out evil actions.

I wouldn't blame the religion as much as I'd blame the local culture.

I would blame the religion for tolerating it, but admittedly, I have major issues with Islam, and won't deny that I can be impartial about it.

atxgun wrote:Exodus 21:24 touts an eye for an eye but I don't think many christians would cite that as grounds for such retribution.

Jesus reminded us that "eye for an eye" isn't touted, but is a limitation on retribution. You can't take a life for an eye, or a limb for a tooth.

But doesn't the Bible also include rules and strictures for beating a wife, a slave, or animals?

I'm not a religious person, though many of my moral's are right up there with a Christian. I hold myself to each and everyone of them strictly, all formed while growing up and growing older and I'm proud of the way that defines me.. And ya know, beating ANYTHING is just wrong. Now I'll be the first to discipline a child, I've even been known to wack a horse across the head a few times, but it's no where close to what you'd call a beating.. When I think of a beating, I think of a all out brawl where a strong person is over powering a weaker person causing harm. Maybe it's the same thing in different cultures, discipline, I dont know..

"Beating" a woman, that just enrages me actually. I am in no way above any woman or man ( talking equally here ), therefore when I hear of anyone beating someone, it comes across to me as a person showing dominance. Sure, dominance is in every relationship, in every group there will be someone more dominate than any of the others.. But you dont just go around hitting people to show it!Or because you dont agree with what someone did.. Of course at times it can be hard to refrain yourself, but thats where morals come in.

That might be their culture, I can respect that to a point. It comes across as being very barbaric ( sp? ). If I grew up in a culture like that I'm sure my outlook would be different.. I'm just glad I didnt..

When I want to beat my wife I prefer a queen's pawn opening with moderately risky fast development and strong center control. She's not exactly a great midgame strategist.

That, or challenge her to some multiplayer Halo.

KD5NRH wrote:When I want to beat my wife I prefer a queen's pawn opening with moderately risky fast development and strong center control. She's not exactly a great midgame strategist.

That, or challenge her to some multiplayer Halo.

Not Rui-Lopez?

jimlongley wrote:Not Rui-Lopez?

I usually use that one against the computer. It usually wins

atxgun wrote:I'd argue it's more of a cultural issue fostering a religion as justification for such actions.

Exodus 21:24 touts an eye for an eye but I don't think many christians would cite that as grounds for such retribution. Not because of their religious beliefs alone but because of the cultures they live in.

Religion is no more peaceful or evil than your gun is in of itself. People carry out evil actions.

I would say that the Exodus passage doesn't even apply to the Christian today. This passage was in effect back in the days of a theocracy when these laws were put in place to govern the Israelites. We live under the government that has been established and are subject to it's rules as described in Romans 13.

This is "multiculturalism" in action.

The dope looked like he was dressed for a klan meeting to start with, that's a serious miscreant all the way around. Folks with those types of pompous and dictatorial attitudes toward other human beings, especially supposed loved ones, are prime examples of why our 2nd amendment and domestic violence laws are so valuable and righteous, in my humble opinion.

If I tried to lightly beat my wife you would be able to tell from my two black eyes

KD5NRH wrote: That, or challenge her to some multiplayer Halo.

Now that's just cruel (usually).

I actually dated a girl once who could beat me consistantly at multiplayer Halo, I was so impressed.