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December 05, 2008
The 'Islamophobia' canard after Mumbai
By Joel J. Sprayregen
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Saudi King Abdullah has been urging the United Nations to pass a universal law prescribing imprisonment for criticizing Islam. Some skeptics, including myself (notwithstanding that I twice enjoyed the King's generous hospitality in Riyadh), have suggested he start instead by establishing religious liberty in his own country, where all religious observance other than Wahabi Islam is banned. Two events occurring last week -- the hideous carnage in Mumbai, accompanied by shameful proceedings at the U.N. -- convinced me it is urgent for His Majesty to radically alter his plans.

Since the U.N. actions were less publicized, let me begin there. A key U.N. committee passed by 85-50 the King's "Islamophobia" resolution, criminalizing any "defamation of religion," especially Islam. The General Assembly is expected to soon approve this measure. Governments will be directed to amend their criminal codes accordingly; the resolution will be incorporated into amorphous "customary international law," which liberal Supreme Court justices are relying on, notwithstanding that much of this "law" springs from anti-democratic sources. While "defamation of religion" conveys a sonorous label, Islamic countries consider "Islamophobic" any expression linking Islam to such subjects as 9/11, terror attacks, honor killings, suicide bombings, beheadings, executions by stoning, persecution of homosexuals, fatwas against authors, death threats to cartoonists, etc. The Organization of the Islamic Conference has decreed that even "hostile glances" are Islamophobic.

Conspicuous omission

As I surveyed reportage about Mumbai, I wondered if the Islamophobia resolution, had already become universal law, perhaps quietly ratified by our Congress, while I wasn't looking. Most coverage was so infested with political correctness that the words Muslim, Islamic and terrorists were never linked. The most egregious offender (guess who?): the New York Times. In its summary articles, you must read to the seventh paragraph before finding a word as strong as "militant" (a despicable misnomer bequeathed by the lexicon of political correctness) used to describe the terrorists. The Times -- echoing its deliberate nearly invisible under-reporting of the Holocaust -- lied on the last day of the siege by saying "It is not known if the Jewish center was strategically chosen or was an accidental hostage scene." CNN was equally terrified of offending terrorists. Most of the media refused to say that the killers were Islamic radicals; one might have thought they arrived from an un-named planet. Mehul Kamdar, a Chicago-based Indian writer, complained online "how extreme political correctness in the Western media keeps key information from being reported through self-censorship."

While full investigation must be awaited to identify the murderers definitively, it was apparent from the outset that the terrorists (I beg forgiveness for using that harsh word) were Islamic extremists. Who else, pray tell, would indiscriminately slaughter Hindus, Christians and Jews, i.e., anyone who was not Muslim, while shouting "Allahu Akhbar" (according to eye-witnesses)? If the media had used in 1941 the truth-avoiding restraints practiced today, Pearl Harbor would have been reported without using the word "Japanese." To erase all doubt, the terrorists told Indian TV during the attacks that they were protesting "mistreatment of Muslims." Notwithstanding, Britain's respected Channel 4 falsely claimed the "militants" showed "wanton disregard for race or creed." Turkish hostages were spared when they screamed "We are Muslims." Christians next to them were executed.

Alas, the media reflect unwillingness of society -- from the top down -- to face candidly the menace of Islamic radicalism. Messrs. Bush and Obama ritualistically condemned the attacks. Neither named the perpetrators. Bush misled us for years with the jargon "war against terror," instead of specifying the enemy. Obama spoke elliptically of combating "hateful ideology" without identifying it. Both leaders, like the media, gave us Pearl Harbor sans the Japanese. If we are to defeat the terrorists, we must name and understand them. And before I am hauled before the World Court on charges of Islamophobia, note I have not said the enemy is Islam. It is Islamic radicalism.

It is unacceptable racism to suggest that all Muslims support terrorism; nonetheless, it remains legitimate to ask why support for terrorism is widespread among Muslims. Palestinians danced in the streets on 9/11 and widespread approbation of the atrocity was found among Arabs (before the U.S. invasion of Iraq). Last week also brought the Dallas federal jury verdict finding the Holy Land Foundation -- America's largest Islamic charity -- guilty of funneling more than $12 million to support Hamas terrorists. A Chicago federal appeals court ruled significantly this week that it is unlawful to funnel money to an organization engaged in terrorism even if there is an effort to earmark the donation for nonviolent purposes.

King Abdullah, who once explained in my presence that his financial support of an infamous Hamas sheikh was merely "gifts to a sick old man," should tell us whether criticizing support of terrorists amounts to Islamophobia.

Sending ACLU Lawyers to Mumbai

While I have bi-partisanly disrespected the incoming and outgoing presidents for vacuous verbiage, let me emphasize one key difference between them. President Bush recognized after 9/11 that his prime responsibility was preventing reprise, as intended by al-Qaeda. He deserves hosannas for completely succeeding, albeit by utilizing harsh interrogations and intrusive surveillance as well as locking up enemy combatants. If you hated Bush's methods, you helped elect Senator Obama, who is entitled to pursue his own counter-terrorism agenda. I approve the moderate mettle of most of Obama's initial appointments, except -- most conspicuously -- the dangerous Harvard quack Samantha Power, who left the Obama campaign last summer after calling Hillary Clinton a "monster." But last week, Obama dropped John Brennan, his respected Intel adviser, from consideration for a high position after the Leftist blogosphere went berserk over guilt by alleged association with "harsh" interrogations.

At an academic reunion in October, a brilliant Yale Law School panel, including the eminent Dean, could not answer coherently my question about what legal advice they would give to interrogators probing the intentions of a terrorist like Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who planned 9/11 and slit Danny Pearl's throat. If the Obama team believes that we must treat terrorists like the Mumbai killers by reading them their rights and providing an ACLU lawyer, we are in for hard times. It is tragic that the Indians -- unlike our Administration -- did not draw meaningful lessons from the massive 2006 train bombings.

Which returns me to King Abdullah and his resentment over Islamophobia. The 9/11 terrorists received Islamic education in his country. The Mumbai terrorists were indoctrinated in mosques and madrassas in Pakistan and perhaps elsewhere. Some horrific defect in their Islamic education rendered them eager to slaughter non-Muslims. It is emerging that there may be a Saudi link to the group which apparently organized the assault on Mumbai in furthering its known commitment to continuous jihad as an obligation binding on all Muslims. No less authoritative a source than Husain Haqqani, the distinguished scholar presently serving as Pakistani Ambassador to the U.S., wrote in 2006 about the group which sent the killers to Mumbai :
"The most significant jihadi group of Wahabi persuasion is Lashkar-e-Taiba (The Army of the Pure) founded in 1989 by Hafiz Muhammad Saeed. Backed by Saudi money and protected by Pakistani intelligence services, Lashkar-e-Taiba became the military wing of Markaz al-Dawa wal-Irshad (Center for the Call to Righteousness). Saeed created a large campus and training facility at Muridke, outside the Pakistani metropolis of Lahore."
Will Wahabi Scholars Condemn Massacres?

Thus, I respectfully suggest to the monarch that he alter his course. Instead of concentrating on trying to jail people in western countries for criticizing Islam, I suggest that our Government and media ask him: Why don't you load your formidable religious establishment -- ulema, sheikhs, imams, cadis, mullahs, jurisprudents -- on one of your jumbo jets and dispatch them on an intensive teaching mission to madrassas and Islamic schools around the world, starting in Pakistan. Islam is not a hierarchical religion, but it claims to respect teachers. The first lesson might be: Murder is wrong. The second: Mass murder is worse. The third: Non-Muslims are children of G-d who have a right to live. If the educational mission succeeds, there will be no need for an Islamophobia law. And many lives might be saved.

Joel J. Sprayregen, a Chicago lawyer, graduated from Northwestern's Medill School of Journalism and Yale Law School . As an ACLU lawyer, he litigated landmark free speech cases. Presently, he is associated with think thanks in Washington, Israel and Turkey which deal with international security issues.
Let me say to start out by saying that, while as a Christian I take theological exception to the tenets of Islam, I also recognize that many of my fellow citizens are Muslim, and they have as much right to live in peace with their neighbors and to practice their religion as do I. I did not post this article for the purposes of taking a swipe at Islam in general, so I would prefer it if this discussion does not veer off into Islam bashing.

Rather, what really bothers me is the world's, and particularly the UN's, unwillingness to view the war on terror objectively - feeling that it has to fall all over itself to not offend those who will not police their own. The world refuses to absorb the fact that the WOT is not a religious war, but a political one, in which one side is treating it politically, and the other as a religious cause. As I recall, during the IRA uprising in Ireland, Christians worldwide condemned both the Catholic and Protestant terrorism with a much, much louder voice than that which supported it. You didn't see Italy, Poland, or Spain, for instance - which were all three heavily Catholic nations at the time - asking for the UN to suppress the free speech of people criticizing Catholic or Protestant terrorists in Ireland. I have no love lost for King Abdullah, but he is merely doing what he feels his version of his faith is telling him to do. I think he is wrong as hades, but that's his privilege. The UN, on the other hand, is inexcusable for being willing to acquiesce to religious bullying in the political realm.

That's my .02¢, anyway. What do you all think?
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I think if the law passes the first journalists going to jail will be Saudi, Egyptian and Syrians who routinely slander Judaism. Middle East Media Research Institute, http://www.memri.org" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; , is a fascinating resource for monitoring Arab media. The slew of propaganda and hatred published on a daily basis is astounding.

If the Saudi King wants to take something in front of the UN that will make the world a better place, he should heed the words spoken at a recent memorial for Mumbai victims. Excerpts from a very poignant speech about the criminal behavior of the imams who are teaching in the madrasses that murdering non-believers is a ticket to heaven, full text of the speech may be viewed at http://www.wiesenthal.com/site/apps/nln ... ct=6421343:

The world has never experienced such a plague of darkness like the plague of Islamic fundamentalism that reveres death over life – that teaches young people that the preferred way to get to heaven is by murdering and maiming...

The world should be very clear – achieving martyrdom by killing innocent civilians is an abomination – it is a concept that desecrates religion, denigrates humankind, and defames G-d himself.

But it is not only the terrorists who bear the responsibility – it is the religious leaders who programmed them, inspired them, and sent them, who are equally culpable. Joseph Goebbels and Julius Streicher never killed anyone – but they were named as war criminals at Nuremberg because on a daily basis, they poisoned the minds of tens of millions of Germans. That is exactly what the Imams of the Islamic Fundamentalists do.

The world must not remain silent. We have the tools to at least do something. The United Nations must make suicide terror a priority. Why is it that the General Assembly can call special sessions on drug cartels, on AIDs, on disarmament, on apartheid – all crucial issues – but it has not yet called for a special session on the greatest crime of the 21st century – suicide terror?
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Maybe the media is trying to tell Christians, Jews, and Hindus that they would be treated with more respect if they went on killing sprees and assassinated journalists who wrote negatively about them?

A pretty clear "We're not going to insult the people who threaten to kill us in hopes that they will go away" message is all I'm getting from this.
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I feel bad for the UN, I really do.

They probably miss their heydays in the 60's when they arguably helped prevent WWIII.

Now, since the US and other major nations mostly ignore them, the only groups they get any attention from is the playground bullies.

I think the UN is gong to go the way of the League of Nations soon. It's too bad, it had a grand idea, but poorly executed and maintained.

I thought John Bolton was a donkey, but he WAS perfect ambassador to the UN in his time. Anyone that speaks truth to power is OK in my eyes, even if they are a donkey :lol:
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Here's a list of projects funded directly or indirectly by the generous, benevolent and loving Saudi King, may he soon be with Allah:

http://www.memri.org/iwmp.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Islamist Forum Member Proposes Poisoning Water Systems of Major European Cities

Somali Jihadists Call on American and European Muslims to Join Jihad in Somalia And Warns the West: "We're Gonna Exterminate You All, Inshallah"

Islamist Website Announces Campaign To Post Jihadist Materials On Popular American Forums

Islamist Forums Teach Mujahideen How to Manufacture and Use Explosives, Weapons, and Poisons

And so it goes, all in the name of their god...but let's make it illegal to criticize them. How about we make it illegal to buy Saudi oil, setup a blockade to prevent them from exporting and let them eat their camels. Time for the US to wake up and recognize who the real enemy is, it wasn't Saddam who we needed to depose first.
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iratollah, I've seen the MEMRI site before, although it's been a while since I looked at it. I think one of the important distinctions to be made is exactly how religion is politicized, and how that politicization is influenced by the culture in which it occurs. For instance, as a conservative Christian myself, it would be disingenuous to claim that my voting patterns are not affected by my faith, because my faith informs the way I look at the world. Everything I think, say, or act on politically is filtered through what I believe is God's will for me, and for my world.

But with that being said, that filtering and voting on my part takes place within the context of a culture that believes fairly strongly in the importance of certain republican (as in, we are a "republic") and democratic (as in, we are a "representative democracy") principles. From very early on in its history, our nation has existed on the principle that government exists to serve the people - even if some people have forgotten that today - and that the people are sovereign. And also from its inception, our national culture has had a long tradition of religious freedom, including the freedom to not practice a religion. That fundamental egalitarianism is why I said in my opening post that, while I take strong theological exception to the tenets of Islam (or virtually any other religion, for that matter), I recognize the absolute right of anyone who practices a different religion from mine to do so peacefully without interference from the state. That last part is absolutely key, and non-negotiable.

That is what I find so disturbing about King Abdullah's attempts to stifle speech directed against Islam (or any other religion, for that matter), and what is so disturbing about the UN even considering the idea, let alone passing it. Part of this speaks to just how corrupt the UN Commission on Human Rights is. When France helped to engineer the expulsion of the US from the committee, instead helping to seat governments that have long and bloody human rights histories, they sealed the fate of the committee, and condemned it to the ash-heap of historical irrelevance.

The last 35-40 years have nearly destroyed the UN. Maybe that's not such a bad thing - except that we pay for 22% of the entire regular budget, and 27% of the "peace keeping" budget (source). What are we getting for our money? It would seem that we are subsidizing the Saudi king's efforts to muzzle us, not to mention subsidizing the sordid behaviors of petty tyrants.

I don't think we are getting our money's worth.
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OK folks, we are straying of into discussion of various religions which is a violation of the forum rules. Please stay within the guidelines.

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Keith B wrote:OK folks, we are straying of into discussion of various religions which is a violation of the forum rules. Please stay within the guidelines.

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Will do, boss. Thanks for the reminder.
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