Todays Schools

[Keith]

Hello again. Wanted to share an article in the paper and on the news. It says 74% of kids today could not get into the military because of obesity,failure of the exam or disability. I'm ashamed by this. We get bad mouthed how we were raised with hard knocks ways and occ sore butt. I think our fathers were right and we are raising a bunch of give me give me kids who have no work ethic. I raise my son the old school way and sometimes wonder if I'm being to hard. I think mayby I'm doing just fine. My son is in 7 th grade and the other day he brings home now get this a rubber duck. I'm like what the heck is this for. He tells me dad I received this as did all the kids for turning in there homework on time all week. I'm like you received an award for DOING WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. As some of you remember I just bought my son a lever action rifle for Christmas that's how responsible the young man is. He is pumped and waiting. To give my son a rubber duck did nothing to help him and only confused him. He has decided it would be the first thing he shoots at the range. Dads we need to do a better job. Our kids are not going to make it if we don't teach them to stand on there own 2 feet and how to be a good dad and husband. Teach them to be a man and love them every step of the way. It comes from the heart not from gifts or freebies . To them life is not easy but can be very rewarding if you work for it. Thanks for the vent.

[longtooth]

Good job "Old School Dad"

I love it. Shoot the duck & cherish the rifle.

& that comes from an Old School Dad that is prowd of his kids & the grandkids they have given me.
30yrs from now you can say the same thing.
LT

[KD5NRH]

Our kids are not going to make it if we don't teach them to stand on there own 2 feet and how to be a good dad and husband.

Geez, that would guarantee that my daughter would turn out seriously weird.

[Zee]

It is a tough environment to work against. We stuck to our beliefs in teaching responsibility and the need to work for the end result, not the immediate entertainment factor. We have not always been popular but that's not the prize I'm hoping for.

I think our son is miles ahead of his friends in knowing he will be thought of by his own hard work and actions not his possessions. As he gets older this becomes more apparent.

Keep it old school.

[Keith]

To the fathers who have daughters. No disrespect was meant. I only have a son so I won't try to act like I know a thing about having a daughter.

[Oldgringo]

Keith wrote:

I'm like you received an award for DOING WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.

In the workplace, one gets paid for DOING WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. Bonuses, and continuued employment, are the result of performance beyond DOING WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.

At least, that the way it used to be and that's the way it should be in schools too.

[KD5NRH]

In the workplace, one gets paid for DOING WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. Bonuses, and continuued employment, are the result of performance beyond DOING WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.

At least, that the way it used to be and that's the way it should be in schools too.

We were supposed to be getting paid in school?

[quidni]

In the workplace, one gets paid for DOING WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO. Bonuses, and continuued employment, are the result of performance beyond DOING WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO.

At least, that the way it used to be and that's the way it should be in schools too.

We were supposed to be getting paid in school?

Yah. It was called "grades." You did well, you earned a good grade and bragging rights. You excelled, and you might be the Valedictorian. If you did poorly, you might wind up in remedials over the summer in order to be able to advance to the next level, or you'd repeat that year altogether. (I remember having to answer to my folks on a couple of grades back in kindergarten.... they KNEW that I knew how to read and do basic arithmetic... I'd gotten bored & sloughed off the schoolwork. NEVER did that again!)

The kids nowadays aren't being taught to feel a sense of personal satisfaction from doing well. So any more, the grades don't mean much. They've been devalued just like our currency.

And unfortunately, there are some young parents who grew up in this "modern" school environment & so don't see anything wrong with it for their own kids.

I thank God that not all parents or teachers are complacent this way.

[troglodyte]

I thank God that not all parents or teachers are complacent this way.

As a teacher, and parent, who is battling this at school, I thank you for your thoughtfulness.

[quidni]

I thank God that not all parents or teachers are complacent this way.

As a teacher, and parent, who is battling this at school, I thank you for your thoughtfulness.

I apologize; I should probably have worded that a bit better, i.e. "Many kids nowadays..." (unfortunately, I see the results of this quite frequently near the border.)

I do know for a fact that there are still good teachers in the schools. And there are still parents who really do care what kind of education (all education, not just academics) our kids are getting. IMO it's one of the reasons why this country hasn't collapsed yet. We may even be in the majority. But as the saying goes, "It's the squeaky wheel that gets greased." I think we need to learn how to squeak louder; we're getting drowned out.

Teaching isn't an easy career.

[nitrogen]

Our kids are not going to make it if we don't teach them to stand on there own 2 feet and how to be a good dad and husband.

Geez, that would guarantee that my daughter would turn out seriously weird.

One of the coolest mothers I know also steps in as dad sometimes. She fixes her own car, and changes her own oil, and does plenty of home maintenance around her own house, so even then it can't hurt :D

[RECIT]

I see this in the writing on the wall everyday. We all see it whether we take notice or not is on the individual. I can speak from experience knowing I was raised in the old school, but also seeing some of my friends grow up in the more modern way of raising children. I am a young man at 27yrs old and I see the degrading status of our countries young men more frequently than I would like. I feel like my generation is on the edge of realism. I find that many young people my age and little older and the majority of people younger than me are just plain LOST in this world without having something handed to them or getting a big pat on the back for just getting by in life. I take pride in my workmanship and in the integrity I uphold in the workplace, and I feel like so many people close to my age have just lost all sense of morality and civility. I also blame a lot of it on the internet and the ability of so many people to be able to point and click for instant gratification. Also the amount of nerve people have while pounding on a keyboard, but when it comes time to put up or shut up the vast majority of people are as hollow as the keys they pound away on. I wish things would go back to people being held accountable for their words and actions, but I see the laziness of our current society taking over for the long haul. If I choose to have children in the future I will bet my bottom dollar they will be raised with heaping helping of "old school". RANT OFF!

[Zee]

Really nice rant off. Feels good!

[Kevinf2349]

This is a situation that happens when parents try to devovle their parenting responsibilities to schools and to society in general...and then demand accountability if that child is reprimanded or punished.

I have lived in the US a fairly short period of time but I am an Old Fart from a really strict schooling and upbringing. I went to a school that cracked you across the knuckles for picking up a pen with the left hand. If I went home and told my parents that I had been given the cane or the slipper, I would have got another one for misbehaving enough to get the first one.

Having said this I do have respect for other people, I have manners enough to say "please" & "Thank you" to people. I was taught to give up my seat for the elderly, the infirm or ladies. I was taught that if you didn't come first , you got nothing. There was no "effort" award to make you feel good about not being good enough to win.

Society today seems to have forgotten that if someone does something good for you, you thank them. I am amazed at how rude people can be...not just kids either. I hold doors for people who just waltz through without so much as a smile in return. Unfortunately I think that the general public has the belief that somehow they are owed something by right.

The Declaration of Independence say "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It doesn't guarantee happiness but does allow for you to get off your sit-upon and chase (pursue) it.

I am not saying everything in the old day was better, but morals, manners and respect certainly were in my humble.


edited to correct my mistake about the DofI....Thanks SeamusTX :)

[Oldgringo]

This is a situation that happens when parents try to devovle their parenting responsibilities to schools and to society in general...and then demand accountability if that child is reprimanded or punished.

I have lived in the US a fairly short period of time but I am an Old Fart from a really strict schooling and upbringing. I went to a school that cracked you across the knuckles for picking up a pen with the left hand. If I went home and told my parents that I had been given the cane or the slipper, I would have got another one for misbehaving enough to get the first one.

Having said this I do have respect for other people, I have manners enough to say "please" & "Thank you" to people. I was taught to give up my seat for the elderly, the infirm or ladies. I was taught that if you didn't come first , you got nothing. There was no "effort" award to make you feel good about not being good enough to win.

Society today seems to have forgotten that if someone does something good for you, you thank them. I am amazed at how rude people can be...not just kids either. I hold doors for people who just waltz through without so much as a smile in return. Unfortunately I think that the general public has the belief that somehow they are owed something by right.

The Bill of Rights say "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of happiness. It doesn't guarantee happiness but does allow for you to get off your sit-upon and chase (pursue) it.

I am not saying everything in the old day was better, but morals, manners and respect certainly were in my humble.

, well spoken. What has not been said as yet is that our parents were our parents. They were not our friends or social buddies.