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3 Democrats—2 senators,1 governor — to retire

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:11 am
by joe817
"WASHINGTON – With the 2010 election year barely under way, two senators and one governor — all Democrats — ditched plans to run for re-election in the latest signs of trouble for President Barack Obama's party.

Taken together, the decisions by Sens. Chris Dodd of Connecticut and Byron Dorgan of North Dakota as well as Colorado Gov. Bill Ritter caused another bout of heartburn for Democrats as they struggle to defend themselves in a sour political environment for incumbents, particularly the party in charge."

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It's WAYYYYY to early for Republicans to jump for joy, as they have to find suitable candidates to throw their hat in the ring.

But this announcement could be an early sign of the fractures developing in the Democratic Party. 2010 will be an interesting year in politics.

Re: 3 Democrats—2 senators,1 governor — to retire

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:22 am
by Oldgringo
By my reckoning, the above decisions leave 98 occupants of the Senate and 435 occupants of the House yet to be replaced. This article doesn't address the 9 members of the SCOTUS or the one POTUS who should also be replaced. :patriot:

Re: 3 Democrats—2 senators,1 governor — to retire

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:24 am
by USA1
joe817 wrote:
It's WAYYYYY to early for Republicans to jump for joy
I don't care what you say , any news is good news. :mrgreen:

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Re: 3 Democrats—2 senators,1 governor — to retire

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:52 am
by joe817
"rlol" :smilelol5: :lol::

I KNEW you'd do that! Thanks! That brightened up my day, and made me chuckle. :tiphat:

OldGringo, there's a movement and from what I've heard it's growing. It's called GOOOH....Get Out Of Our House:

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The movement is to replace EVERY member of Congress via the election process. After all the elections are this November 2.

Re: 3 Democrats—2 senators,1 governor — to retire

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:41 pm
by longhorn_92
USA1 wrote:
joe817 wrote:
It's WAYYYYY to early for Republicans to jump for joy
I don't care what you say , any news is good news. :mrgreen:

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Don't jump too high. Look what they are leaving behind.... an America that is being FUNDAMENTALLY Changed... into a Socialistic Country.

Re: 3 Democrats—2 senators,1 governor — to retire

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:49 pm
by marksiwel
longhorn_92 wrote:
USA1 wrote:
joe817 wrote:
It's WAYYYYY to early for Republicans to jump for joy
I don't care what you say , any news is good news. :mrgreen:

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Don't jump too high. Look what they are leaving behind.... an America that is being FUNDAMENTALLY Changed... into a Socialistic Country.
Socialist like Switzerland? I'll take, Military Rifles in every house, great healthcare, and one of the safest countries in the world, sound terrible right?

Re: 3 Democrats—2 senators,1 governor — to retire

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:08 pm
by psijac
marksiwel wrote: Socialist like Switzerland? I'll take, Military Rifles in every house, great healthcare, and one of the safest countries in the world, sound terrible right?
Switzerland has a Military rifle in every home because every young man of age is required to do military service. its fantastic that a draft works for them but we have proven a voluntary service system works. At least for us anyway

Re: 3 Democrats—2 senators,1 governor — to retire

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:20 pm
by marksiwel
psijac wrote:
marksiwel wrote: Socialist like Switzerland? I'll take, Military Rifles in every house, great healthcare, and one of the safest countries in the world, sound terrible right?
Switzerland has a Military rifle in every home because every young man of age is required to do military service. its fantastic that a draft works for them but we have proven a voluntary service system works. At least for us anyway
Did the draft not work in WW2 in the US? I think things fell apart when we (the US) started getting heavy handed with other countries. The Swiss "Draft" has never had to send troops into anywhere.
The Draft seems to work pretty darn well is Israel too.

Did anyone ever read Starship Troopers (The Book not the Movie, big diff) Basically people had to do some form of Civil Service (Not just Military work) to become "Citizens"= people who could vote or hold Civil Office. Maybe we should try that out

Re: 3 Democrats—2 senators,1 governor — to retire

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:23 pm
by Purplehood
marksiwel wrote:
psijac wrote:
marksiwel wrote: Socialist like Switzerland? I'll take, Military Rifles in every house, great healthcare, and one of the safest countries in the world, sound terrible right?
Switzerland has a Military rifle in every home because every young man of age is required to do military service. its fantastic that a draft works for them but we have proven a voluntary service system works. At least for us anyway
Did the draft not work in WW2 in the US? I think things fell apart when we (the US) started getting heavy handed with other countries. The Swiss "Draft" has never had to send troops into anywhere.
The Draft seems to work pretty darn well is Israel too.

Did anyone ever read Starship Troopers (The Book not the Movie, big diff) Basically people had to do some form of Civil Service (Not just Military work) to become "Citizens"= people who could vote or hold Civil Office. Maybe we should try that out
Starship Troopers = Roman Empire = same service requirement for Citizenship
BTW, I agree. I think it is an idea with merit.

Re: 3 Democrats—2 senators,1 governor — to retire

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:11 pm
by marksiwel
I will point out a key difference, between Starship and the Romans, in Starship you were not treated "WORSE" for being a Non-Citzen

Re: 3 Democrats—2 senators,1 governor — to retire

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:25 pm
by mymojo
marksiwel wrote:I will point out a key difference, between Starship and the Romans, in Starship you were not treated "WORSE" for being a Non-Citzen
Another big difference is that Rome didnt have spaceships.


Just sayin'....

Re: 3 Democrats—2 senators,1 governor — to retire

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:32 pm
by marksiwel
mymojo wrote:
marksiwel wrote:I will point out a key difference, between Starship and the Romans, in Starship you were not treated "WORSE" for being a Non-Citzen
Another big difference is that Rome didnt have spaceships.


Just sayin'....
And THATS why they lost

Re: 3 Democrats—2 senators,1 governor — to retire

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:55 pm
by Purplehood
marksiwel wrote:I will point out a key difference, between Starship and the Romans, in Starship you were not treated "WORSE" for being a Non-Citzen
Actually the book was kinda vague on that issue. We can presume that you weren't, but in the book we really only encountered Citizens and those non-citizens who would become Citizens through service.

Re: 3 Democrats—2 senators,1 governor — to retire

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:12 pm
by LarryH
Purplehood wrote:
marksiwel wrote:I will point out a key difference, between Starship and the Romans, in Starship you were not treated "WORSE" for being a Non-Citizen
Actually the book was kinda vague on that issue. We can presume that you weren't, but in the book we really only encountered Citizens and those non-citizens who would become Citizens through service.
Johnny Rico's father was not a citizen at the beginning of the book, but a prosperous businessman (who was upset when Johnny enlisted rather than going into the family business after graduation). He didn't even think about joining the military until his wife (Johnny's mother) died when the Bugs nuked Buenos Aires.

It was at least implied that non-citizen civilians looked down on the military, IIRC.

Re: 3 Democrats—2 senators,1 governor — to retire

Posted: Wed Jan 06, 2010 5:14 pm
by Purplehood
LarryH wrote:
Purplehood wrote:
marksiwel wrote:I will point out a key difference, between Starship and the Romans, in Starship you were not treated "WORSE" for being a Non-Citizen
Actually the book was kinda vague on that issue. We can presume that you weren't, but in the book we really only encountered Citizens and those non-citizens who would become Citizens through service.
Johnny Rico's father was not a citizen at the beginning of the book, but a prosperous businessman (who was upset when Johnny enlisted rather than going into the family business after graduation). He didn't even think about joining the military until his wife (Johnny's mother) died when the Bugs nuked Buenos Aires.

It was at least implied that non-citizen civilians looked down on the military, IIRC.
Rich ones, though in my cynical mind I really would be doubtful that it was easy for a non-citizen to get rich in the first place. But I will concede that the book may have painted a much prettier utopic future than I recall from my teenage reading.