I just had an amusing, though interesting, experience at the range. As I was leaving I passed another shooter going the other way. We had seen each other at the range before, but we hadn't met.
He quietly and very nicely said to me, "I think you are printing. You may want to adjust your sweater a bit." I said that I appreciated the heads-up, and looked down at 4:00 o'clock and really couldn't see any sign of my SP101 tucked away in my Crossbreed SuperTuck.
It came out that my cell phone was doing the printing at 9:00 o'clock.
I resisted my initial inclination to post this in "Never Again," but I decided that it really did not belong there.
This is true. I demo this all the time. A cell on the belt is harder to HIDE than to conceal a big handgun.
Good post.
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Keith B wrote:Maybe there is a market for Comp-Tac or another holster maker to start producing IWB cell phone holders that help hide your phone.
I'm not sure if this is what you meant, but to take this a little further...
It could be a dual purpose holster that carried IWB on the inside and OWB cell phone all in one.
No officer that's just my cell phone. See!
No, I was just joking that Comp-Tac makes good holsters that hide your gun from printing, and maybe they need to do the same thing for cell phones. LOL
They do make a holster like that, it's called the Cell/Pager Pal. I tried one of them that was made for a Kahr PM9. I likened it to wearing a full sized dinner plate in your pants.
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How many of us visit range with CCW concealed and actually unholster from IWB in bay and re-holster into IWB when finished. I've done this a couple times now and do feel a bit uncomfortable doing this with others (spectators) behind waiting for their partners or just taking a break. My point to this is to carry IWB as much as feasibly possible in legal areas - not to practice unholstering & re-holstering (practice that with empty weapon in secured room in house).
Is this discouraged, not recommended, or just asking for trouble? Range officers have told me this is OK but is there a potential concealment issue here - given that I'm at range? Should this be done in car and carry in like most others - i.e., in range bag or sleeve? What if an off duty Round Rock PD officer is in bay next to me when I arrive or exit?! Asking for trouble - even at range?!
In terms of cell phone OWB carry - I purposely carry my mobile phone in pocket as to avoid drawing attention to anything buldging on my waistband. I can see mistaken identity frequently lead to questioning that leads to fact that I am carrying - just not on side or area that was originally spotted.
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What do you mean? Some open ranges where we shoot IPDA/IPSC there is a safe area. Kind of a cement box, you go there to mount/dismount your CC gear or manipulate your firearm if you had a jamming for a example.
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Nope - not aware of an area like that - although they do have a latrine (restroom) for privacy. Otherwise, these jam manipulations are generally done in firing bay itself - which is basically open with no privacy. For instance, I frequently get hit with shells from bay to my left if shooter's weapon next to me is an aggressive discharger!
I hope I'm not alone in this ordeal - perhaps I've been doing this wrong &/or completely outside the norm for CHL holders.
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In terms of cell phone OWB carry - I purposely carry my mobile phone in pocket as to avoid drawing attention to anything buldging on my waistband. I can see mistaken identity frequently lead to questioning that leads to fact that I am carrying - just not on side or area that was originally spotted.
When I started carrying, I used a Crossbreed Super Tuck (IWB tuckable) with the shirt tucked in and frequently no other cover garment. I did not like the (what seemed to me) obvious bulge on the belt at about 4 o'clock, and I did not like it that you could see part of the clips...especially when the black clips contrasted with a brown belt. So, I purposely put my cell phone on my belt right over the front clip. It also obscured the bulge on the belt. I went all kinds of places with that setup. No one ever looked at me strangely (afaik) or reported a man with a gun. However, you could still see part of the rear clip, and twice the cell fell out of it's case on my belt without my noticing it. So now I use the Super Tuck when I have a cover garment and put the cell in a pocket like I used to. When I don't want to use a cover garment, I use the SmartCarry.
During the last year I have frequented two different ranges with two different takes on this.
The first requires all weapons to be cleared before entry into the office, and they are visually inspected before exiting the office for the outdoor range. The office is city property, this being a municipal range. This requirement is conspicuously posted outside the entrance to the office by what one could call a "gunbuster" sign. No problem for any of us, mature adults who understand that safety is rule no. 1, and I have never heard someone placing form over function by grumbling "30.06" to show how smart he is. All weapons must be cleared and visible while walking between range and office. Two range safety officers are on duty out at the range at all times, and they are strict, as they should be. Again, no grumbles are heard. We apppreciate their presence.
The other range is indoors, and visitors with CHLs often, but not always, carry concealed into the range and clear there at the bench in their partition, after checking in at the office which is right adjacent to the range. Once again, most shooters are mature adults who, simply by having a CHL, should know that safety is #1, and, as I am sure many of us have seen, the attendant at the office can quickly spot someone who is new. As well, a person having a CHL is generally expected to be able to unholster and clear his weapon without being a danger to himself or others. Safety is rigidly enforced at the range, with all shooting positions visible to attendant by video. If shooters carry concealed on the premises with the permission of the owner they do not expect any problem from local LEOs.
Safety is the byword everywhere, all the time, and one rule does not fit everywhere, and ultimately the burden is on the shooter to govern himself.