shot gun

[ericlw]

Alright I know pretty much nothing about shot guns. With that being said.

I am looking for a shotgun for clay pigeon shooting and general use. I dought I would go hunting for some sort of animal but I dont want to rule it out. Initially I wanted it for home defence but really I wont use it for that since I rather use one of my hand guns. One of my fathers friends said I should really get a semi auto instead of a pump, But the price goes way up for auto.

I was looking at anything from:
remmington 780, 1100
to some sort of benelli.

I like the benelli supernova and the super black eagle 2. Anyone help me out with this?

[shortysboy09]

The Benelli's are top of the line! The price on em is .

I own a Remington 1187 and a Browning Gold Hunter. Both are great semi-auto shotguns. I use them mainly for Dove and Turkey hunting. Shotguns are very versatile due to having multiple choke tubes to adjust the shot pattern of the shotgun.

For instance, I use my full shotgun choke for turkey because it maintains a much tighter pattern. I use my Modified choke for Dove hunting because it allows the pattern to spread out more than a full choke. Hope this helps.

[ericlw]

yea I accually prefer the benelli supernova over the rem 870 but an auto version is alot more money. I would spend 1000-1500 but I really dont know if its even worth it.

[Dutch]

You really have to shoulder them. Fit is the most important thing for a shotgun. If it does not naturally mount with the proper sight plane including length of pull, drop and cast you cannot be as good of a shooter as with a gun that fits.

I prefer gas operated semi-autos over the inertia actions of the Benellis. Personally I shoot a Beretta Xtrema 2 which is a waterfowl gun. Lesser priced gas operated guns can be found in the $600-800 range that will be nice. Many people swear the best gas gun value for the money is the "Wal-Mart" Beretta 390. Called the Wal-Mart gun because it is an older design with a few bells and whistles removed to keep the price down. They go for about $500. Excellent gun for hunting and clays. I think you can get shims to adjust the fit.

[davidtx]

I just wanted to point out that the semi-auto's tend to kick less. This might be important when shooting a few rounds of clays.

I have an 1100 and love it.

I'll vouch for the earlier poster's comment about fit. My daughter and my son's fiance have both shot the 1100 and its just way too long for them - the bruises weren't pretty. I'm now looking for a youth model 20 gauge for them to shoot.

[mikeintexas]

I had to look around for the Stoeger Model 2000, which is in the Benelli group. It has the inertia system from Benelli, but is about half the price of a Montefaltro(sp). I wanted my shotgun to have camo and paid a little more for that. It cost a little under $500 before taxes 5 years ago. My nephew also has a Model 2000 in black. I love mine.

That will give you another option. I have also had a 870 for about 25 years (cleaned it about twice) and it has never missed a shot, it is just my aim that misses!

My $0.02 worth!

[Ropin]

I have a SuperNova, and love it. The Comforttech stock does a great job of reducing felt recoil, and it comes with a variety of shims and widgets to allow you to customize the fit.

A quick stock and barrel change allows you to turn it into a 'tacticool' HD gun, or a specialized turkey gun if the whim ever strikes you.

There's a button on the foregrip that allows you to rack the chambered round without feeding another one from the tube...handy for fence/rough ground crossing, though my friends tend to use it more often to mess with folks. ("here, try my gun," after they remove the 2 3/4 and pop in a single 3 1/2 mag.)

If price is a concern, you can take a look at the Nova...similar features, same great quality.

I personally prefer the pump action, because there's something zen-like about cycling the action between shots for me. YMMV, I acknowledge I'm weird.

I also like the weather-resistance of the gun. When we're out and it starts raining, the guys with the Remingtons and so on are reaching for the RemOil, while the Nova contingency keeps right on shooting.

[ericlw]

Well I am probably going to collectors firearms to see if they got any of the models I want to try out. I know they got tons of guns but most of them are old and worn out imo. I welcome any opinions good or bad on my question since I really have no idea what I want/need.

[aggie06]

I love my Nova. I can shoot almost as fast with my pump as friends can with their semiautos. But I agree with the post above - fit is most important. Go to Collector Firearms and see what fits best.

[budroux2w]

I love my Rem 870. I agree with the above posts there's just something about a pump action that I like. You can also get very quick with them, I can come close to shooting as fast as a friend of mine with an over/under.

[Texas10X]

The reduced recoil of a semi-auto such as the Remington 1100 you mentioned definitely makes up for the difference in price between it and a pump.

[tb7475]

The purpose of usage on your shot gun.If I were you I will save the money on Nova and pick up Black eagle or maybe some other semi-auto.
Pump action has less part to go wrong compare with semi-auto but it also take more practice on the follow up shot.If you can borrow both pump and semi-auot and go shoot each round of skeet,you will tell the difference right away.
There are many choices of semi-auto out there,I bought a Beretta urika for my son (He is 14)because it's lighter than the Remington 11-87 I have.The good thing about Remington is easy to find parts no matter is factory or after market upgrades.
Buy an extra 20" barrel then you pretty much have an all around shot gun including home defense still have money in the parket compare with the super black eagle you are looking for the down side is Rem is heavier than black eagle.No matter what you pick semi-auto is way to go for what you looking for.

[couzin]

Well I am probably going to collectors firearms to see if they got any of the models I want to try out. I know they got tons of guns but most of them are old and worn out imo. I welcome any opinions good or bad on my question since I really have no idea what I want/need.

#1 -- Take somebody with you that has experience with condition and quality issues on shotguns IF you are willing to admit that you are not sure of what you are looking at. You might also get some assistance with fit (e.g. how the shotgun shoulders and mounts, sight picture, etc).

#2 -- If you are looking at clays games (skeet on a regulation field, possibly trap, and sporting clays or five stands) PLUS use in the field for upland bird, migratory, or (possibly) deer, then a semi auto 12ga with less than 28" barrels with multiple chokes probably would work best (you have to decide how much you want to spend BTW). Now then, there are those of us that feel very strongly that you need one type of shotgun for each usage. This usually leads to owning several over unders for clays or upland birds, a couple or three semis, a single barrel trap, and a couple pumps just because...

[ericlw]

i think my main problem is i really want a benelli supersport but its lots of $$$.


I have bought expensive custom 1911 and can tell the difference between it and a cheap one. so im sure shotguns are like that.

[sixline]

I have an older 12ga Beretta A390 ST semi-auto with a 30" barrel and screw-in skeet choke that I use for clay shooting. It is a wonderful gun and I can shoot all day long, hundreds of rounds, without any pain or soreness. It's heavy, but it's made of wood and steel. I like the weight, personally. Some folks like the lighter composite or aluminum guns. It's definitely something to check out yourself and see how you swing it.

I've shot a few other semi-autos and they are great as well: Rem 1100, 1187, Benelli SBE. Pumps work well too, but I prefer the auto loader myself.