Dallas Toll Roads

[G26ster]

I don't have a toll tag on my car, so when I went to the Allen Gun Show and the prior show in McKinney I took both the 121 toll road and the 161 toll road. I saw no toll booths on 121 and the one's on 161 appeared closed. Friends said I would just receive a bill in the mail. I have never received a bill to date and it's been several months. Anyone know the process here?

[Beiruty]

I don't have a toll tag on my car, so when I went to the Allen Gun Show and the prior show in McKinney I took both the 121 toll road and the 161 toll road. I saw no toll booths on 121 and the one's on 161 appeared closed. Friends said I would just receive a bill in the mail. I have never received a bill to date and it's been several months. Anyone know the process here?

You will get a bill. If you do not get one why worry?

[G26ster]

You will get a bill. If you do not get one why worry?

Wanna bet Her original toll was $11

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[randomoutburst]

DO worry if you don't get a bill. I did the same thing and never got a bill. We went in to get a TollTag months later and we had $2000 in late charges and they were about to send it to collection. If you register for a TollTag they drop the late charges and you only have to pay you actual toll usage...but take care of this immediately before it turns sour.

[RPB]

When I lived in Houston, certain toll roads closed the booths and there was no charge after a certain time on Sunday night until early Monday morning ... (Some people I knew always waited until that time to come back from Louisiana's Casinos ... I'm guessing they weren't good at saving enough for a toll and didn't have a txtag.) May have changed now to where they send a bill ....

[G26ster]

DO worry if you don't get a bill. I did the same thing and never got a bill. We went in to get a TollTag months later and we had $2000 in late charges and they were about to send it to collection. If you register for a TollTag they drop the late charges and you only have to pay you actual toll usage...but take care of this immediately before it turns sour.

Thanks! I'm going to call them Monday. Anyone remember the dates for the McKinney and Allen gun shows? I want to give them the dates I traveled.

[dicion]

When I lived in Houston, certain toll roads closed the booths and there was no charge after a certain time on Sunday night until early Monday morning ... (Some people I knew always waited until that time to come back from Louisiana's Casinos ... I'm guessing they weren't good at saving enough for a toll and didn't have a txtag.) May have changed now to where they send a bill ....

Actually.. this isn't true..
It was never 'free'... you were supposed to use the coin machine if there was no one in the manual booth and you didn't have an ez-dat, but they couldn't just leave both gates down, or some people might get stuck if their tag didn't work/equipment failure/etc. So they opened the manual lane gate.

Not like that anymore, there's now camera enforcement on all lanes, and you'll get a violation if you try it these days

To the OP: I'd call the NTTA and give them your LP number. They can look it up that way. I don't know how they do it there, but HCTRA has a 3-strike rule. In any given calendar year, the first 2 violations are 'free', as in, you will not be assessed a fee. But if you get a third one, then they send you a bill for all 3.

How do I know this? My company is the one that installs/maintains the violations cameras and systems, and we also do all the License Plate Picture Violation processing for HCTRA

[randomoutburst]

dicion - The NTTA charges you for all tolls, even if you don't have a TollTag. It's called ZipCash and the concept is actually kind of cool.
Say you don't use the Tollway all the time, but happen to use it once in a blue moon. They removed all cash booths, so you just hop on and, at each toll booth, it takes a photo of your license plate if it registers that the passing car doesn't have a TollTag. They mail you bill (and, I assume, the photo of your plates) to the address registered to the car and you can pay your toll with the information provided. It's a little more expensive than if you had used a TollTag, but there's no penalty for not having a TollTag and using the TollWay.

Remember when I said it sends it to the address registered to the car? That's how I got in trouble. I used it once or twice when I was running late to work and assumed they'd bill me. The bill never came and I ultimately forgot about it. After all, I don't use the Tollway!
We had moved a few months prior to my runs down the TollWay and we had changed our address on file with everything and everyone; we even filed a change of address form with the DPS. They said the "car owner address" would be changed to reflect our new address. Apparently the NTTA didn't get the memo, and kept sending it to our old address. The new tenants failed to forward the bills or return to sender...even the ones supposedly also stamped "PAST DUE" and "FINAL NOTICE"! Anyway, we finally got it sorted out.

Moral of the story: If nothing happens when something should have happened, FIND OUT WHY! :)

[bnc]

121 is a toll road now?

[randomoutburst]

121 is a toll road now?

Yes, but there's still service road access. It reaches all the way to 75. It was very handy when I was commuting from McKinney to Frisco...very handy indeed.

[The Annoyed Man]

I have received a bill for a violation on TX 121 from the NTTA before, and it got our attention because I have a tolltag and I'm the only one in the family who ever drives up that way. This was in the days before "ZipCash," and it came several months after the "violation." We had sold a car to someone almost a year before. We had filled out and sent in the form to notify DPS that we had sold the car, but the buyer had never reregistered it in her own name. The date of the violation was a month or two after we sold the vehicle, and the bill arrived in our mailbox about 6 months after the violation.

I had to send the NTTA copies of the signed bill of sale and the other paperwork (we always make copies when we sell a car). The bill of sale had her name and address on it. They sent us an acknowledgement that they were no longer interested in us.

[The Annoyed Man]

121 is a toll road now?

Yes, but there's still service road access. It reaches all the way to 75. It was very handy when I was commuting from McKinney to Frisco...very handy indeed.

It becomes a toll road from just above the Lewisville business exit (north of Bass Pro in Grapevine) and points north. Below that, it is not a toll road... ....at least not yet.