NCIS Considered Essential Service?
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NCIS Considered Essential Service?
Curious more than anything. Does anyone know? Will NCIS checks continue to be done if there is a government shutdown?
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I'm not sure. I don't know much about the Naval Criminal Investigative Service. 

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Good thing we have chls and don't have to worry about it!
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Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?
Pawpaw wrote:I'm not sure. I don't know much about the Naval Criminal Investigative Service.


And 74Novaman is right, this is one of the bennies of having a CHL.
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NICS would not be an essential service, based on the definition I was given today. Think of it this way: Those who are working during the furlough would risk not being paid for the work, depending on the mood of Congress.
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NCIS = Navy Criminal Investigative ServiceDad24GreatKids wrote:Pawpaw wrote:I'm not sure. I don't know much about the Naval Criminal Investigative Service.You know thats what happens when you don't take time to read posts very clearly. Before I sent this I did a forum search on NCIS check. I got lots of hits so I went with it. If I had taken the time to scan a few of them I would have found out that it is NCIC...
And 74Novaman is right, this is one of the bennies of having a CHL.
NCIC = National Crime Information Center
NICS = National Instant Check System
NICS is the proper acronym for the background check you get when you purchase a firearm.
My guess is that NICS will be shut down, and you won't be able to purchase a firearm. UNLESS you have a CHL, and then you don't have to have the NICS check, so you're golden.


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Thanks for clarifying the alphabet soup.
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Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?
If NICS does get shutdown due to no budget agreement then you can bet that the NRA and SAF will have papers filed for court cases as soon as that very first call is ignored.
How do you explain a dog named Sauer without first telling the story of a Puppy named Sig?
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I hope you weren't offended. I just couldn't help having a little fun!Dad24GreatKids wrote:Pawpaw wrote:I'm not sure. I don't know much about the Naval Criminal Investigative Service.You know thats what happens when you don't take time to read posts very clearly. Before I sent this I did a forum search on NCIS check. I got lots of hits so I went with it. If I had taken the time to scan a few of them I would have found out that it is NCIC...
And 74Novaman is right, this is one of the bennies of having a CHL.

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Not at all.Pawpaw wrote: I hope you weren't offended. I just couldn't help having a little fun!


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Asking for what? That NICS be considered essential or that it be waved during the shutdown?G.A. Heath wrote:If NICS does get shutdown due to no budget agreement then you can bet that the NRA and SAF will have papers filed for court cases as soon as that very first call is ignored.
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Probably both, on the grounds that withholding it is abridging 2A rights.Dad24GreatKids wrote:Asking for what? That NICS be considered essential or that it be waved during the shutdown?G.A. Heath wrote:If NICS does get shutdown due to no budget agreement then you can bet that the NRA and SAF will have papers filed for court cases as soon as that very first call is ignored.
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Probably in that very order for the NRA, and the other way around for the SAF. After all the second amendment defines a civil right and is therefore essential. Imagine that anyone arrested by the feds during a shutdown being denied due process because it wasn't considered essential.Dad24GreatKids wrote:Asking for what? That NICS be considered essential or that it be waved during the shutdown?G.A. Heath wrote:If NICS does get shutdown due to no budget agreement then you can bet that the NRA and SAF will have papers filed for court cases as soon as that very first call is ignored.
How do you explain a dog named Sauer without first telling the story of a Puppy named Sig?
R.I.P. Sig, 08/21/2019 - 11/18/2019
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Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?
That would be frivolous. The reason for the furlough is the lack of a spending authorization. No authorization, no spending money. No spending money, no services. This is above and beyond the lack of a budgetary authorization, which should have been done six months ago. It's all out of sequence, which is why it's so "different this time" (to borrow a phrase from those economists who said that property values and the stock market would never go down).G.A. Heath wrote:If NICS does get shutdown due to no budget agreement then you can bet that the NRA and SAF will have papers filed for court cases as soon as that very first call is ignored.
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Re: NCIS Considered Essential Service?
I suspect the NICS phone operators will be out of work, but NICS e-check should stay up.