Carry Question
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Carry Question
If one qualifies with a revolver on the shooting portion of the test and only is going to carry a revolver but the recently received CHL indicates semi auto, should the person return the license for correction? This happened but not to me.
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if they received a SA license and didn't really deserve it, should they? Yes, morally, but must they? I would think No.
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Does the person have a copy of his CHL-100? What was shown on that? Was the mistake DPS's, or the instructors?
But, if the individual qualified with a revolver, he should contact DPS and explain the issue to them. They will tell him/her what to do.
But, if the individual qualified with a revolver, he should contact DPS and explain the issue to them. They will tell him/her what to do.
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The correct answer is "I am carrying under the authority of the Motorists Protection Act"TxLobo wrote:I would return it...
even though your physical license says "SA", do you know for sure what your electronic entry says?..
so if an officer stops you and you present your license to them, and they note the SA and ask what you are carrying, and you respond with a semi auto model... when they run you through TCIC, is the return going to show NSA or SA?
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If you qualified NA, your license should say NA.... I would notify DPS and have it changed.
If you qualify NA, and your license says SA, and some day you decide to carry SA and have an armed "SA encounter", you will surely be disadvantaged in court if your qualifications show up in the records anywhere as NA. That would be my primary concern.
If you qualify NA, and your license says SA, and some day you decide to carry SA and have an armed "SA encounter", you will surely be disadvantaged in court if your qualifications show up in the records anywhere as NA. That would be my primary concern.
I am not a lawyer. This is NOT legal advice.!
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see and I think that what the licesnes says is all that matters, if you qualified SA and your licesnse came in and was not listed SA, you wouldnt be able to carry your semi auto legaly even though you qualified with a semi auto until your license was corrected.RoyGBiv wrote:If you qualified NA, your license should say NA.... I would notify DPS and have it changed.
If you qualify NA, and your license says SA, and some day you decide to carry SA and have an armed "SA encounter", you will surely be disadvantaged in court if your qualifications show up in the records anywhere as NA. That would be my primary concern.
moraly I would probably notify them
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Check the CHP-100 certificate. If it says SA, then call your instructor who signed the document.
Offer to requalify with a SA handgun at their next class, or request a new document.
If the latter, notify DPS of the error and let them decide.
Offer to requalify with a SA handgun at their next class, or request a new document.
If the latter, notify DPS of the error and let them decide.
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The MPA does not apply to CHL holders.Rex B wrote:The correct answer is "I am carrying under the authority of the Motorists Protection Act"TxLobo wrote:I would return it...
even though your physical license says "SA", do you know for sure what your electronic entry says?..
so if an officer stops you and you present your license to them, and they note the SA and ask what you are carrying, and you respond with a semi auto model... when they run you through TCIC, is the return going to show NSA or SA?
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He should have a copy of his CHL 100 look at it and see if SA or NSA is checked. The instructor may have checked the wrong box.
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Where does it say this in the statutes?MoJo wrote:
The MPA does not apply to CHL holders.
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I was wondering the same thing. I agree that you cant choose not to carry under the authority of your CHL on a whim, but if you have a SA handgun in your car and you dont have a SA CHL then your clearly not carrying it under the authority of your CHLsjfcontrol wrote:Where does it say this in the statutes?MoJo wrote:
The MPA does not apply to CHL holders.
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Texas Penal Code 46.02
MPA is the (a-1) section. Nothing indicates it is invalid if the person has a CHL.Sec. 46.02. UNLAWFUL CARRYING WEAPONS. (a) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun, illegal knife, or club if the person is not:
(1) on the person's own premises or premises under the person's control; or
(2) inside of or directly en route to a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or under the person's control.
(a-1) A person commits an offense if the person intentionally, knowingly, or recklessly carries on or about his or her person a handgun in a motor vehicle that is owned by the person or under the person's control at any time in which:
(1) the handgun is in plain view; or
(2) the person is:
(A) engaged in criminal activity, other than a Class C misdemeanor that is a violation of a law or ordinance regulating traffic;
(B) prohibited by law from possessing a firearm; or
(C) a member of a criminal street gang, as defined by Section 71.01.
Range Rule: "The front gate lock is not an acceptable target."
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Me too. Even worse, I think this guy is an instructor.zero4o3 wrote:I was wondering the same thing.sjfcontrol wrote:Where does it say this in the statutes?MoJo wrote:
The MPA does not apply to CHL holders.

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Yes I am an instructor and like everyone I can make a mistake. What I meant to say if you have a CHL you are carrying under the CHL you can't pick and choose. Now, like I said I may be wrong, so I have contacted DPS for clarification. I WILL post the reply regardless if it proves me wrong or right.tacticool wrote:Me too. Even worse, I think this guy is an instructor.zero4o3 wrote:I was wondering the same thing.sjfcontrol wrote:Where does it say this in the statutes?MoJo wrote:
The MPA does not apply to CHL holders.
"To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them."
George Mason
Texas and Louisiana CHL Instructor, NRA Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, Personal Protection and Refuse To Be A Victim Instructor
George Mason
Texas and Louisiana CHL Instructor, NRA Pistol, Rifle, Shotgun, Personal Protection and Refuse To Be A Victim Instructor