Seriously considering a bushmaster acr. Open to opinions.

[Monker10]

Greetings everyone. I am in the market for an ar type rifle. I wanted to do run and gun events and wanted a rifle that is light and not to costly to shoot. I have my FAL which I love but .308 is expensive to shoot and it is a heavier rifle. I was interested in the bushmaster acr because of the ease of barrel change to utilize many different rounds and the fact that it is a gas piston driven rifle. If anyone has any feed back about that rifle or any other ar rifle that has a short stroke piston I would greatly appreciate it. Thanks!

[gigag04]

Scar?

[Monker10]

I was also looking that the scar but it seems to be several hundred dollars more expensive than the acr. The other I was seriously considering was the sig 516 but then would lose the the barrel changeability. This is not that big a deal.

[74novaman]

when you say ease of barrel change, are you referring to the swapping out of uppers that is common on every AR, or something unique to the acr with just the barrel being swapped out?

Other than that I have no opinions regarding AR purchases because I don't have an AR. If you've got the cash and you like it, go for it!

[RECIT]

What do you gain from the barrel change option. Do you plan to shoot other calibers or just like the feature? Anything other than 5.56 is going to get a lot closer to the cost of .308 and you might as well stick with that if you even get close in cost with another caliber.

I think the ACR and the SCAR are over rated for the cost. Neither one will do anything a piston driven AR won't do.

[Monker10]

when you say ease of barrel change, are you referring to the swapping out of uppers that is common on every AR, or something unique to the acr with just the barrel being swapped out?

Other than that I have no opinions regarding AR purchases because I don't have an AR. If you've got the cash and you like it, go for it!

The ACR has the ability to be able to swap out the barrel and the bolt without tools.

@Recit. You make a good point about the ammo cost. I did like the option to shoot different calibers in case one is not in production but that feature isn't a deal breaker for me. I need to look into it further and if it's to
costly for the parts it might not be worthwhile.

[rm9792]

SCAR changes barrels in about 30 seconds with an allen wrench. It is slightly overpriced but since getting mine I have sold all my AR's but one, you gotta have an AR in America! The SCAR does have a lot of little features that are nice to have and is very well built.

[RECIT]

I think the SCAR is better build quality than the ACR. I think FN has more attention to detail with better fit and finish in my opinion. The ACR idea got passed around a few sets of hands before someone would fund it or run with it. The SCAR was designed by FN for FN...and I guess our military.

[MadMonkey]

I think the SCAR is better build quality than the ACR. I think FN has more attention to detail with better fit and finish in my opinion. The ACR idea got passed around a few sets of hands before someone would fund it or run with it. The SCAR was designed by FN for FN...and I guess our military.

SCAR MK17 is already in limited service with our military

I've handled a few and I'm in love. I WILL have one someday when I'm not poor

ACR never took my interest.

[Monker10]

The scar really looks like a great weapon. People that have them have nothing but good things to say and the fact that it has seen some service tells me that parts might be more available.

The two cons to the scar in my opinion are that 1. the charging handle is reciprocating. For some reason I can imaging that getting caught up on something. 2. The price point is pretty high for my taste, but then again a decked out acr with folding stock is almost as expensive.

The acr is newer so less people have them but on the whole the ones that do love them. I can get a basic model for about 1600 which in my comfortable price range and get the accessories I want later on.

The one thing that bothers me is I have heard and seen reviews is that you lose zero when you change the barrel. It's not outrageous but there is a significant shift. The scar does seem to do a much better job at retaining zero. I would not be changing the barrel frequently but this still is a concern.

[Monker10]

Thanks for the input! After much research and deliberation I believe I have decided to go with the scar 16. I really like the concept of the acr but believe it is still to new to market and has several kinks to work out. One of the features I liked most was the option of swap out barrels for different calibers but it does not seem to have much action in that department at bushmaster. Also another think that irked me was that Remington is making their own that is not available to civilians. It's supposed to be more durable and lighter with an aluminum lower receiver and have the 1 in 7 barrel twist. also only one year warranty for a new rifle to market bothers me.

Though the scar is a few hundred dollars more that the acr and has a reciprocating charging handle the pros far outweight these cons. It has proven to be a reliable durable quality mil spec rifle through several years of military and civilian use and appears to be produced by a company that provides excellent warranty service.

[rm9792]

Here is mine with suppressor, SBR'd and Nikon M223 scope.
Link to bigger pic
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[JeepGuy79]

what can is that?

[rm9792]

Homemade from 2 maglights and heavy duty formed washers. Welded an A2 flashider into the battery cap on one end for a mount. Not silent but can shoot without protection, about as loud as a .22Lr.

[JeepGuy79]

Not meaning to hijack the thread, but I would like to see a couple photos of the can and the insides if you don't mind. Did you make the washers into a m baffle kind of shape? I have heard of guys using mag lights to build suppressors but I have never seen one. Sounds like you got creative and saved some coin. Sorry for all the questions I just love seeing form one can designs.