Back Ground Checks?
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Back Ground Checks?
As my student count increases so are my chances of instructing someone who is less than deserving of fireamrs training. Of course I am not talking about a CHL class but more along the lines of private lessons. So far I have been reading the client so to speak but that definatley is not full proof. I am thinking about doing back ground checks but that will probably drive away good business. Any suggestions?
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Texas LTC and School Safety Instructor and NRA Training Counselor
Re: Back Ground Checks?
...I shared my class and my renewal classes with some folks that I thought had no business NEAR a gun..one thing's for sure...they'll leave there much better informed about the laws and consequences...you'll give them a lot to think about before they go out and do wrong...and won't be teaching them NEARLY the techniques and handling that they've learned in the criminal environment...years ago, they stuck a .38 in their pocket and went out...nowadays, they're better armed and more sophisticated than a lot of LEOs...and they actually train and practice...I'd teach on and let the state sort 'em out...
Re: Back Ground Checks?
speedsix wrote:...I shared my class and my renewal classes with some folks that I thought had no business NEAR a gun..one thing's for sure...they'll leave there much better informed about the laws and consequences...you'll give them a lot to think about before they go out and do wrong...and won't be teaching them NEARLY the techniques and handling that they've learned in the criminal environment...years ago, they stuck a .38 in their pocket and went out...nowadays, they're better armed and more sophisticated than a lot of LEOs...and they actually train and practice...I'd teach on and let the state sort 'em out...

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Re: Back Ground Checks?
You could teach basic classes (CHL, hunter safety, NRA Basic Pistol) to anyone and require a CHL for advanced classes. Some of the big name schools require a CHL or other credentials for their classes. For example http://www.thunderranchinc.com/application.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Brian Mobley wrote:As my student count increases so are my chances of instructing someone who is less than deserving of fireamrs training. Of course I am not talking about a CHL class but more along the lines of private lessons. So far I have been reading the client so to speak but that definatley is not full proof. I am thinking about doing back ground checks but that will probably drive away good business. Any suggestions?
Re: Back Ground Checks?
If you have concern, which you should, every major school/instructor has an application form to ascertain identity and previous training. Thunder, Tac Pro, Valhalla, etc.. Wouldn't be difficult or expensive to conduct your own basic criminal history search and insure that the people you are dealing with are actually eligible to own a firearm.Brian Mobley wrote:As my student count increases so are my chances of instructing someone who is less than deserving of fireamrs training. Of course I am not talking about a CHL class but more along the lines of private lessons. So far I have been reading the client so to speak but that definatley is not full proof. I am thinking about doing back ground checks but that will probably drive away good business. Any suggestions?
https://records.txdps.state.tx.us/DpsWe ... alHistory/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; $3.00 for Texas criminal history from DPS.
Anyone worth training should appreciate the fact that you insure your students are good citizens.
IF it is simply about the money then obviously teach and let someone else worry about it, but
by your post I believe you want to continue traveling East.
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Re: Back Ground Checks?
Unless you are teaching tactics or something you wouldn't want a potential bad guy to know, I don't see the point. Some classes probably do go into that, but most don't. The dps will do a much more thourough background check than you before the license is issued. All you are certifying as an instructor is that that they've had training in gun safety, nonviolent conflict resolution, basic skills, and laws. And that they can hit the broad side of a barn. Even those who don't qualify for a license could benefit from the class.
I think that's a little different from, say Thunder Ranch, which teaches tactics and skills which would make a bad guy more of a threat to society. For example, it would do them a lot of harm if it had come out that the DC sniper had been through tactical and long range rifle courses there.
If he had gone your CHL course, you could just say "he went through 10 hours of nonviolent conflict resolution, laws against unlawful use of force, and basic gun safety including proper use and storage and he still did what he did. Guess he didn't learn mud."
I think that's a little different from, say Thunder Ranch, which teaches tactics and skills which would make a bad guy more of a threat to society. For example, it would do them a lot of harm if it had come out that the DC sniper had been through tactical and long range rifle courses there.
If he had gone your CHL course, you could just say "he went through 10 hours of nonviolent conflict resolution, laws against unlawful use of force, and basic gun safety including proper use and storage and he still did what he did. Guess he didn't learn mud."
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Re: Back Ground Checks?
I don't think your average bad guy is going to spend his well stolen money on good training. I think that as long as you are teaching defensive tactics and safe weapons handling, you should be fine. If you are running squad drills and instructing ambush techniques, that's a different story. I would want to know a little bit more about who I was teaching at that point. Nothing like training the enemy... 
