Lower than a Snake's Belly in a Wagon Rut
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Re: Lower than a Snake's Belly in a Wagon Rut
SWEET!!! Thanks for that.
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Re: Lower than a Snake's Belly in a Wagon Rut
Very cool. Thanks.!
I'll pick this one as my fave...

Ok.. and this one too...

I'll pick this one as my fave...

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Re: Lower than a Snake's Belly in a Wagon Rut
I have always been told that altitude above you is not revelant. The altitude below you is the critical figure.
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Re: Lower than a Snake's Belly in a Wagon Rut
The three most useless things to a pilot...StewNTexas wrote:I have always been told that altitude above you is not revelant. The altitude below you is the critical figure.
-sky above you
-runway behind you
-fuel on the ground.
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Re: Lower than a Snake's Belly in a Wagon Rut
OK, pop quiz -- what was the civilian (mostly) firearm-related reference contained on all that? Hint - one of the pictures does not match the caption with it.
Not really related, but... a few days ago, here just south of Seguin, I heard a very noticeable, deep aircraft engine throb - the kind WWII warbirds make. I dashed out of the barn where I was storing some things, looked up and waited -- and sure enough a B-17 flew over (not as low as the pictures linked above, but not too far up either). Silver with red markings. I guess there was an airshow in the area. Was pretty cool to see.
Not really related, but... a few days ago, here just south of Seguin, I heard a very noticeable, deep aircraft engine throb - the kind WWII warbirds make. I dashed out of the barn where I was storing some things, looked up and waited -- and sure enough a B-17 flew over (not as low as the pictures linked above, but not too far up either). Silver with red markings. I guess there was an airshow in the area. Was pretty cool to see.
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Re: Lower than a Snake's Belly in a Wagon Rut
While fly fishing for trout in a river in Missouri many years ago my dad and I nearly jumped out of our waders when couple of A-10's came whizzing around the valley up river at about 100 feet. They were well below the tops of the low mountains on either side of the river. At the time, my did didn't know what an A-10 was, but he quickly became interested.
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There is a photo of a B-17, but the caption says it is a PB-1W. I guess it could be firearm related since the B-17 has a bunch and the PB-1W doesn't have any?ELB wrote:OK, pop quiz -- what was the civilian (mostly) firearm-related reference contained on all that? Hint - one of the pictures does not match the caption with it.
Not really related, but... a few days ago, here just south of Seguin, I heard a very noticeable, deep aircraft engine throb - the kind WWII warbirds make. I dashed out of the barn where I was storing some things, looked up and waited -- and sure enough a B-17 flew over (not as low as the pictures linked above, but not too far up either). Silver with red markings. I guess there was an airshow in the area. Was pretty cool to see.
I am not and have never been a LEO. My avatar is in honor of my friend, Dallas Police Sargent Michael Smith, who was murdered along with four other officers in Dallas on 7.7.2016.
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Re: Lower than a Snake's Belly in a Wagon Rut
My uncle learned first hand how F4's and B-52's look down low - from the cockpit of his Cessna. It seems they occasionally wanted to practice nap-of-the-Earth flying over North Texas. Right over his grass airstrip.
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My bad. So, A PB-1W is a B-17 fitted with a radar system in the 1950's and used for early warning. However, the B-17 in the picture I'm talking about still doesn't have the radar dome that makes it a PB-1W.C-dub wrote:There is a photo of a B-17, but the caption says it is a PB-1W. I guess it could be firearm related since the B-17 has a bunch and the PB-1W doesn't have any?ELB wrote:OK, pop quiz -- what was the civilian (mostly) firearm-related reference contained on all that? Hint - one of the pictures does not match the caption with it.
Not really related, but... a few days ago, here just south of Seguin, I heard a very noticeable, deep aircraft engine throb - the kind WWII warbirds make. I dashed out of the barn where I was storing some things, looked up and waited -- and sure enough a B-17 flew over (not as low as the pictures linked above, but not too far up either). Silver with red markings. I guess there was an airshow in the area. Was pretty cool to see.
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OK, you guys are in the presence of someone who loves that stuff.
My pics from Edwards AFB Airshow in 2005: http://www.whamphoto.com/Airplanes/Edwa ... 52_5W8FwDx
Anyway, the coolest thing I ever saw a fighter jock do was on July 4th weekend in 1974. My brother and I had hiked to the top of Mount Whitney, and while we were on the peak with a dozen or so other hikers enjoying the view to the east, we got buzzed by a flight of 2 F4 Phantoms. The west slope of Whitney is fairly gentle, and the east side of the peak drops 2,300 vertical feet in a massive cliff. They came streaking in low from the northwest, down the Kerr River Valley and climbed in a map of the earth route up the west slope of Whitney peak. As they transited the peak, they rolled over inverted, certainly less than 100 ft over our heads, and both pilots waved at us as they dove over the edge of the cliff upside down, rolling upright on the way down and then pulling out of the dive over the little lake below and streaked off down the valley.
When you're standing on top of a 14,500 foot peak, looking down at the earth spread out below you, the world is your oyster. When a couple of fighter jocks pull a move like that, it throws a dash of paprika on that oyster.
My pics from Edwards AFB Airshow in 2005: http://www.whamphoto.com/Airplanes/Edwa ... 52_5W8FwDx
Anyway, the coolest thing I ever saw a fighter jock do was on July 4th weekend in 1974. My brother and I had hiked to the top of Mount Whitney, and while we were on the peak with a dozen or so other hikers enjoying the view to the east, we got buzzed by a flight of 2 F4 Phantoms. The west slope of Whitney is fairly gentle, and the east side of the peak drops 2,300 vertical feet in a massive cliff. They came streaking in low from the northwest, down the Kerr River Valley and climbed in a map of the earth route up the west slope of Whitney peak. As they transited the peak, they rolled over inverted, certainly less than 100 ft over our heads, and both pilots waved at us as they dove over the edge of the cliff upside down, rolling upright on the way down and then pulling out of the dive over the little lake below and streaked off down the valley.
When you're standing on top of a 14,500 foot peak, looking down at the earth spread out below you, the world is your oyster. When a couple of fighter jocks pull a move like that, it throws a dash of paprika on that oyster.
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Re: Lower than a Snake's Belly in a Wagon Rut
Many years ago, I worked Special Operations C-130s in England...we used to do low-level flying through the mountain valleys of Italy. We were certainly below the mountain tops...but NOTHING like those pics. Pretty awesome, and pretty crazy...the C-130 rides were low enough for me. 

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Re: Lower than a Snake's Belly in a Wagon Rut
Thank you Andy.
I have this video tagged, marked, flagged, and otherwise tattoed onto my eyelids.
I have been driving Commercially since '68 and have a biased preference for what the flying trucks/boats can do. The go-fasts might as well stay home if the trucks couldn't have delivered the materiel.
TY.
salty
edit: 'Shakey' drivers have their own tales of seat cushion suction. Not as 'glam' or 'fab' but they delivered the goods.
salty
I have this video tagged, marked, flagged, and otherwise tattoed onto my eyelids.
I have been driving Commercially since '68 and have a biased preference for what the flying trucks/boats can do. The go-fasts might as well stay home if the trucks couldn't have delivered the materiel.
TY.
salty
edit: 'Shakey' drivers have their own tales of seat cushion suction. Not as 'glam' or 'fab' but they delivered the goods.
salty
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C-dub wrote:My bad. So, A PB-1W is a B-17 fitted with a radar system in the 1950's and used for early warning. However, the B-17 in the picture I'm talking about still doesn't have the radar dome that makes it a PB-1W.C-dub wrote:There is a photo of a B-17, but the caption says it is a PB-1W. I guess it could be firearm related since the B-17 has a bunch and the PB-1W doesn't have any?ELB wrote:OK, pop quiz -- what was the civilian (mostly) firearm-related reference contained on all that? Hint - one of the pictures does not match the caption with it.
Not really related, but... a few days ago, here just south of Seguin, I heard a very noticeable, deep aircraft engine throb - the kind WWII warbirds make. I dashed out of the barn where I was storing some things, looked up and waited -- and sure enough a B-17 flew over (not as low as the pictures linked above, but not too far up either). Silver with red markings. I guess there was an airshow in the area. Was pretty cool to see.
The photo I am talking about is about B-52s, but the pictures are of (some kind of) WWII warbirds at low level over water being shot at. The caption does give an interesting history of long-range B-52 flights...and the firearm related factoid comes from the name of the operation...
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Re: Lower than a Snake's Belly in a Wagon Rut
747 low level pass:
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=RgusXzo6omU[/youtube]
Some fighter low level passes:
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=ia2OE2Amvj0[/youtube]
The French know how to do it too:
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=EprRB4MAZPU[/youtube]
In fact, the French are CRAZY!!!
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=PLXhPoxytsM[/youtube]
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=RgusXzo6omU[/youtube]
Some fighter low level passes:
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=ia2OE2Amvj0[/youtube]
The French know how to do it too:
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=EprRB4MAZPU[/youtube]
In fact, the French are CRAZY!!!
[youtube]http://youtube.com/watch?v=PLXhPoxytsM[/youtube]
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
― G. Michael Hopf, "Those Who Remain"
#TINVOWOOT
― G. Michael Hopf, "Those Who Remain"
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