I am to do a private class for a Marine tomorrow. He has called saying he was doing the app online and he is concerned now as 4 years ago he was arrested for a DUI. He says they did not even take him to jail, but given community service only. he doesn't remember what class of misdemeanor this was. Should he bother or not?
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CHL application with an alcohol arrest
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CHL application with an alcohol arrest
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Re: CHL application with an alcohol arrest
If he doesn't know the actual charges and the disposition, the rest of us would just be guessing. BUT. If it was a class A or B misdemeanor and he was convicted (which doesn't necessarily mean jail time) then he has to wait five years before he's eligible.
Sad commentary that after waiting 5 years, he might get his CHL free, but some RN who doesn't drive drunk has to pay $140.
Sad commentary that after waiting 5 years, he might get his CHL free, but some RN who doesn't drive drunk has to pay $140.
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...something's not accurate...if you're arrested, you're booked into jail...the booking record will reflect the actual charge(public record) and if he didn't go to jail...who gave him the community service order??? I'd spend some time with him getting these answers...before he wastes his money and both y'all's time...I'll bet the charge wasn't DUI...wgoforth wrote:I am to do a private class for a Marine tomorrow. He has called saying he was doing the app online and he is concerned now as 4 years ago he was arrested for a DUI. He says they did not even take him to jail, but given community service only. he doesn't remember what class of misdemeanor this was. Should he bother or not?
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Called him back... he suddenly remembered it was class C and was as a minor.speedsix wrote:...something's not accurate...if you're arrested, you're booked into jail...the booking record will reflect the actual charge(public record) and if he didn't go to jail...who gave him the community service order??? I'd spend some time with him getting these answers...before he wastes his money and both y'all's time...I'll bet the charge wasn't DUI...wgoforth wrote:I am to do a private class for a Marine tomorrow. He has called saying he was doing the app online and he is concerned now as 4 years ago he was arrested for a DUI. He says they did not even take him to jail, but given community service only. he doesn't remember what class of misdemeanor this was. Should he bother or not?
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...cookin' with gas!!! 
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(6) is not a chemically dependent person;
A DWI in the last 5 years
A DWI in the last 5 years
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speedsix wrote:...cookin' with gas!!!
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You know seriously, seemed like a fine, polite young man. A US Marine, but has to wait. Part of me wants to think "unfair" but really this shows that our actions have consequences farther than we can predict. Sounds like sermon fodder...
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Re: CHL application with an alcohol arrest
This is not accurate information... If he was convicted of DUI, not DWI (6) does not apply. Not only that, the definition of a chemically dependent person says two or more convictions in a 10 year period.bkj wrote:(6) is not a chemically dependent person;
A DWI in the last 5 years
Remember DUI only requires "a detectable amount" of alcohol be present in a minor's system.
I'll bet his service in the Corps has set him on the right path.
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Yep. I'm almost sure that's what this is, because a DWI is a Class B, even for a minor. So must have been DUI Class C... If we start weeding people out for Class C's, anyone who's had a speeding ticket is gone. (And yes I know Disorderly Conduct is one class C that prohibits you for 5 years.)KRM45 wrote:This is not accurate information... If he was convicted of DUI, not DWI (6) does not apply. Not only that, the definition of a chemically dependent person says two or more convictions in a 10 year period.bkj wrote:(6) is not a chemically dependent person;
A DWI in the last 5 years
Remember DUI only requires "a detectable amount" of alcohol be present in a minor's system.
I'll bet his service in the Corps has set him on the right path.
4/13/1996 Completed CHL Class, 4/16/1996 Fingerprints, Affidavits, and Application Mailed, 10/4/1996 Received CHL, renewed 1998, 2002, 2006, 2011, 2016...). "ATF... Uhhh...heh...heh....Alcohol, tobacco, and GUNS!! Cool!!!!"
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Is being a law abiding citizen REALLY that hard?
I was laying over in El Paso some years ago and got to talking with another pilot, who was a LEO pilot in Montana or Idaho etc., and told me that some enormous percentage of the people who apply to become law enforcement officers are ineligible because of past convictions, DUI, drugs, petty theft, etc.
Doesn't any body have a grandmother anymore? How does this happen so often?
I was laying over in El Paso some years ago and got to talking with another pilot, who was a LEO pilot in Montana or Idaho etc., and told me that some enormous percentage of the people who apply to become law enforcement officers are ineligible because of past convictions, DUI, drugs, petty theft, etc.
Doesn't any body have a grandmother anymore? How does this happen so often?
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Re: CHL application with an alcohol arrest
DWI /= DUI.
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What the guy was convicted wasn't even a crime when many of us were 18... The confusion is that in Texas DUI is a low grade offense...for catching under 21 with any detectible alcohol in their system. It's not driving while intoxicated. It's same grade misdemeanor as speeding (class C). We're criminalizing too much these days.JALLEN wrote:Is being a law abiding citizen REALLY that hard?
I was laying over in El Paso some years ago and got to talking with another pilot, who was a LEO pilot in Montana or Idaho etc., and told me that some enormous percentage of the people who apply to become law enforcement officers are ineligible because of past convictions, DUI, drugs, petty theft, etc.
Doesn't any body have a grandmother anymore? How does this happen so often?
There are varying family legends that ScottDLS's grandma worked in a speakeasy in NYC in the 1920's when she was a young woman...
4/13/1996 Completed CHL Class, 4/16/1996 Fingerprints, Affidavits, and Application Mailed, 10/4/1996 Received CHL, renewed 1998, 2002, 2006, 2011, 2016...). "ATF... Uhhh...heh...heh....Alcohol, tobacco, and GUNS!! Cool!!!!"