Which political election will be the best to support?

[drjoker]

It seems to me like the presidential race against Obama is a lost cause. I don't think Romney has a chance against big O. Republicans hold the majority in the Congress, but Democrats hold the majority in the Senate. If Republicans can also gain control of the Senate, then it would be an attainable political win for all those who favor 2nd A rights. Since Texas is firmly Republican, I'm not going to waste my political support dollars on Texas Senators, but instead, I'm going to donate money to NRA "A" rated republicans running for Senate in narrowly contested senate races. That's where I think I'll get the most bang for my political donation dollars. So, my question is, which Senate races are going to be won by the narrowest of margins where one candidate that is NRA "A" rated will be running against a less favorable NRA rated opponent? Please let me know so that I can donate to the candidate that will get me the most bang for my political donation dollars. Thanks!

[74novaman]

Here's a crazy idea. If you're going to be donating your hard earned money to get someone else elected, maybe you should do some research the politicians running yourself, instead of trusting to the advice of random strangers on the internet.

[drjoker]

Here's a crazy idea. Maybe I already did some research but I just need a bit more information and posting on the internet is part of my research. Plus, not everyone here is a "random stranger" as I have bought guns from and went shooting with many others on this forum.

I am currently looking at the Senate races in Virginia and Missouri. Missouri, because the last presidential elections there was 49.3 to 49.4% with the advantage going to McCain with a margin of only 0.1%. I am also looking at the Senate race in Virginia. However, the NRA website only have maybe less than 5% of their 2012 election map lit up. That map was meant for late in the election, not in the early stages of election financing.

Thanks again guys for the advice in advance :0)

[Heartland Patriot]

SNIP

It seems to me like the presidential race against Obama is a lost cause. I don't think Romney has a chance against big O.

I simply do not believe what you stated there to be true. I think that Mitt Romney has a great chance to win this thing and restore some sense of normalcy to our nation. However, with folks spreading that attitude you displayed, it certainly makes it much harder for him to win.

[speedsix]

...if we're already giving up, might as well lower the flag and bend over...this is the time to fight like it means something to defeat obummer..."remember the Alamo" and all that...if all true Americans can see past their party lines and pet issues to realize how important this election is...and ALL registered voters get off their lazy tails and go out and VOTE...of COURSE we can defeat him...but not with a lot of "conscience" and "protest" votes...it's time for us all to stand up and fight against what's happened this last 3 1/2 years...instead of just grumbling...giving up this presidential election before the last vote is counted shames all those good men/women who've given up their families, livelihoods, and futures so that we could have America...it's time to get down on our knees and beg for His help and then get up and FIGHT to take America back from the politicians...first stop...1600 Pa. Avenue...

[RoyGBiv]

Romney's gonna win in a (electoral) landslide. Americans are growing sick of the pandering liar. Even college kids are starting to see through him.

/offtopic

Edited for grammar.

[gdanaher]

A lot of things could happen between now and November. Employment numbers, weather and fuel prices, Iran. There are a lot of variables. One web site I've looked at is realclearpolitics.com. Nothing magical about it but they include a lot of polling information from a number of sources. States are broken down to hard red and blue, soft red and blue, and flips. If nothing else changes between now and then, Obama would need to carry Colorado, Pennsylvania, and North Carolina, or some other similar combination. If you feel you can make a difference with your campaign dollars, send them to the committees in these states.

[matriculated]

Romney's gonna win in a (electoral) landslide. Americans are growing sick of the pandering liar.

Your first sentence and your second sentence are in direct contradiction to each other. If Americans are really getting so sick of pandering liars, why in the world do you think they would elect Willard? If pandering and lying were really such big issues, the election would be a wash at best. But I think the OP has it right. An incumbent president is very difficult to beat, and unless the economy craters, considering how profoundly flawed Willard is as a candidate, I don't see how he stands a chance.

[psijac]

It the past has taught us anything its that you have to be more than not your enemy. John Kerry was essentially not Bush. And that was not enough to get him into the white house. I do not see Mitt Romney as anything other than not Barak Obama.

ACORN did play a huge role in voter fraud 4 years ago. They are not around anymore but those people are still around under different banners I am sure

I am a fan of Ron Paul. But I think even Ron Paul would be surprised if Ron Paul won the Nod. People on this forum seem to have a weird grudge against him for some reason. And they are less than clear about it.

[RoyGBiv]

Romney's gonna win in a (electoral) landslide. Americans are growing sick of the pandering liar.

Your first sentence and your second sentence are in direct contradiction to each other. If Americans are really getting so sick of pandering liars, why in the world do you think they would elect Willard? If pandering and lying were really such big issues, the election would be a wash at best. But I think the OP has it right. An incumbent president is very difficult to beat, and unless the economy craters, considering how profoundly flawed Willard is as a candidate, I don't see how he stands a chance.

Funny... I didn't see it that was as I wrote it, probably due to the Obama-induced smoke fumes ( ) clouding my vision.

Obama got elected for being "not George Bush" and because he was "the Black guy I voted for to prove I'm not a racist".... Honestly, I believe "the People" are waking up to the fact that "Hope and Change" are nothing more than words and that Obama is so far Left that he's a bigger danger than he is smooth. I'm feeling the backlash building. Romney just needs to not muck it up. IMO.

[pbwalker]

Romney's gonna win in a (electoral) landslide. Americans are growing sick of the pandering liar. Even college kids are starting to see through him.

/offtopic

Edited for grammar.

Quoted so I can keep track of this come November. I don't see it happening...I hope I am wrong.

[matriculated]

Romney's gonna win in a (electoral) landslide. Americans are growing sick of the pandering liar.

Your first sentence and your second sentence are in direct contradiction to each other. If Americans are really getting so sick of pandering liars, why in the world do you think they would elect Willard? If pandering and lying were really such big issues, the election would be a wash at best. But I think the OP has it right. An incumbent president is very difficult to beat, and unless the economy craters, considering how profoundly flawed Willard is as a candidate, I don't see how he stands a chance.

Funny... I didn't see it that was as I wrote it, probably due to the Obama-induced smoke fumes ( ) clouding my vision.

Obama got elected for being "not George Bush" and because he was "the Black guy I voted for to prove I'm not a racist".... Honestly, I believe "the People" are waking up to the fact that "Hope and Change" are nothing more than words and that Obama is so far Left that he's a bigger danger than he is smooth. I'm feeling the backlash building. Romney just needs to not muck it up. IMO.

I think that last sentence is key. If Obama was running against just a generic human being with an "R" attached to him, then this election would truly be a referendum on Obama and he would lose. But Obama's running against Willard. That's a problem. Willard has shown an uncanny ability to put his foot in his mouth and provide media types and the opposition with ammo to use against him. He's got the image of a Montgomery Burns, twirling his moustache and snickering while the masses toil for scraps. Knowing that he has this image problem, one would expect him to take steps to improve the problem, but instead he seems to only be able to make it worse. And then there's the weirdness thing. The man is weird. Videos of him attempting to communicate with normal human beings are painful to watch. Ann has a much better personality and she'll be of huge help to the campaign. She knows how to talk to people and connect with them. But Ann isn't on the ticket, her husband is. The system has in-built mechanisms that advantage the incumbent president over the challenger, and I think that those combined with Willard's unlikability and Obama's relative likability (according to polls) will be more than enough to sink the Willard boat. The question is: What kind of damage will be done downticket?

[The Annoyed Man]

SNIP

It seems to me like the presidential race against Obama is a lost cause. I don't think Romney has a chance against big O.

I simply do not believe what you stated there to be true. I think that Mitt Romney has a great chance to win this thing and restore some sense of normalcy to our nation. However, with folks spreading that attitude you displayed, it certainly makes it much harder for him to win.

Even legacy media polls (which tend to favor Obama in all things) put the election at near 50/50. Romney actually has a very good chance of beating Obama. What will lose the election for Romney? Ideologically purist conservatives who (mistakenly) believe that Romney is Obama-lite. Romney can easily beat Obama if all conservatives unite behind him, for the simple reason that independent moderates are also leaning toward Romney this year as Obama sheds their support. Even liberal rags are saying this. But if disaffected conservatives either vote third party, or protest and stay home, Romney will lose.

So, the race is conservative voters' to lose, and the loss will be on the shoulders of those who could not muster the pragmatism to hold their noses and vote for the republican nominee.....who most presume will be Romney. Santorum is out and has given qualified support to Romney, but at the last reporting that I saw, Santorum had not yet released his delegates. Gingrich is effectively irrelevant, even though he refuses to quit. And Paul is still in it, although without a shred of hope of actually winning the nomination.

Between Santorum and Paul, we won't have a fully brokered convention, but those two will have a voice in the party's final election platform for the general election. Hopefully, that voice will encourage hardcore conservatives to support Romney in the general. But if those conservatives don't get behind Romney—even if unenthusiastically—then the election is Obama's, and we'll have dysfunctionally conservative politics to thank for that.

I am absolutely and irrevocably convinced that this nation is at a tipping point of trial, and protest voting is an indulgence that we cannot afford. I am am a proud conservative AND a political realist, and I at least will not bear that burden of guilt. I'm going to enthusiastically support the Republican nominee because, at this exact particular time in history, that is the only option that that will not lead directly to a worsening of our situation—no matter how honorably and well-motivated disaffected voters might be.

Your mileage may vary.

...unless the economy craters...

"Unless?" Really? You're obviously not self employed in a small business. The economy has cratered for people who don't have the luxury of working for large cash cows. Those who can't see it are either A) willfully blind to their own situations, or B) employed in fields that by the nature of what they do are somewhat insulated from the vicissitudes of the real economy that the rest of us suffer under......like a tenured professor, or a large hospital employee would be. Lawyers aren't doing too badly either, it seems. Nothing against lawyers, per se....just that they're in a profession where they get paid whether they win or lose, and when I worked in a hospital ER, I got paid whether the patient lived or died, that's all I'm saying. People in such types of positions are not subject to the same kind of buffeting as those whose daily financial lives really do rise and fall daily with the economy. On the other hand, small business persons either stay in business or go out of business directly according to the results they produce. There is no dampening influence from other factors. Something like 99% of all employers are small businesses, and about half of all employed persons in the U.S. work for a small business (source: http://www.sba.gov/sites/default/files/sbfaq.pdf).

The economy HAS cratered from the small business owner's perspective. Just sayin'.....

[RoyGBiv]

Romney's gonna win in a (electoral) landslide. Americans are growing sick of the pandering liar. Even college kids are starting to see through him.

/offtopic

Edited for grammar.

Quoted so I can keep track of this come November. I don't see it happening...I hope I am wrong.

Sometimes going out on a limb gets you the big WIN, sometimes it just gets you a faceplant.
Election 2012 is not for the weak of heart.

[gemini]

Ron Paul rocks...... but this IS something to think about......