Obama Talks Limiting Assault Rifles
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Obama Talks Limiting Assault Rifles
Here it is. Obama talked of limiting access to "assault rifles" today.
"I believe the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms," Obama said. "But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not on the streets of our cities."
No, Mr. President, a lot of gun owners would not agree with that statement.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07 ... z21h4szWcN
"I believe the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms," Obama said. "But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not on the streets of our cities."
No, Mr. President, a lot of gun owners would not agree with that statement.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07 ... z21h4szWcN
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Long Island Man Arrested For Defending Home With AK-47
Says Many Gang Members Were Coming After His Family
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/09/07/ ... ith-ak-47/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
that took 30 seconds to find, I know there are many other instances they are used for defense
one in Texas
Mission man uses AK-47 to defend house during home invasion
http://www.valleycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=565832" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Texas Ranchers Using AK47s to Defend Against Cartel Invaders
http://standwitharizona.com/blog/2012/0 ... -invaders/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Says Many Gang Members Were Coming After His Family
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2010/09/07/ ... ith-ak-47/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
that took 30 seconds to find, I know there are many other instances they are used for defense
one in Texas
Mission man uses AK-47 to defend house during home invasion
http://www.valleycentral.com/news/story.aspx?id=565832" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Texas Ranchers Using AK47s to Defend Against Cartel Invaders
http://standwitharizona.com/blog/2012/0 ... -invaders/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Last edited by RPB on Wed Jul 25, 2012 10:26 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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My AK hasn't hurt anyone and it will stay that way...unless bad guys try to hurt me or my loved ones. But hey, this POTUS cares so much about our rights, right? Gimme a break. He's lining up his rhetoric with the UN Arms Treaty he plans on signing, no matter how terrible it is...because the peasants don't "need" AKs...or ARs...or any other "assault weapons". Does he also plan on bringing in some "blue helmets" to round 'em all up? Or is he going to get our national law enforcement to do that? WILL they do that? Seems like a mighty tall order to me...
Well, I think instead of axes and pokers, they might just find folks with AKs and ARs...kind of takes the fun out of oppressing citizens, huh? I know, I'm just a mechanic, I do not have infantry or any other combat training...but I guess like "Trooper Padgett", I'd rather be pulled out of a pile of brass...than to be dragged off to some camp or "re-educated". I mentioned before how much of an impact the Holocaust episode of "The World At War" series had on me as a child...and I am completely serious, I promise you that.
--- Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
Well, I think instead of axes and pokers, they might just find folks with AKs and ARs...kind of takes the fun out of oppressing citizens, huh? I know, I'm just a mechanic, I do not have infantry or any other combat training...but I guess like "Trooper Padgett", I'd rather be pulled out of a pile of brass...than to be dragged off to some camp or "re-educated". I mentioned before how much of an impact the Holocaust episode of "The World At War" series had on me as a child...and I am completely serious, I promise you that.

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Well I retract my earlier statement about Obama saying he wouldn't use the tragedy to push gun control, now give me a sec while I remove my foot from my mouth.
I really wish he wasn't such a tool. I just wish I could trust Romney with the second amendment, with his history in Mass. I am worried he won't be much better.

I really wish he wasn't such a tool. I just wish I could trust Romney with the second amendment, with his history in Mass. I am worried he won't be much better.
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sales are going thru the roof on AK-47s just blocks away from the aforementioned theater
http://www.ak47world.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Now ... I been trying to decide on an AK or an AR ... I have an SKS and "enough" soft point 7.62x39 ammo but wondered about them other calibers and I didn't wanna spend a thousand bucks on one seldom used home defense rifle as I enjoy pistols at the range mostly and could use another Glock 26 and a DB9 and a 1911 and
looks like cheaperthandirt is selling AKs fast ... many out of stock http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemList ... catid=7795" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
http://www.ak47world.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Since AK47World.com is literally just blocks away from the Colorado Theater Shootings in Aurora, Colorado - since Friday we've been affected by all the commotion
NOW our phones & e-mail are being SLAMMED as procrastinators are SLAMMING US as Colorado Gun Sales are up 41% since shootings as mags & ammo sales are also EXPLODING !!!
But you'd BETTER HURRY & GET WHAT YOU NEED NOW (forget Big Screen TVs & Consumer JUNK) as Libs are SCREAMING to BAN AK's, AR's & Hi-Caps Mags/Drums & that New York FOOL Mayor Michael Bloomberg is telling Police to "Go on Strike" until Politicians Ban Semi-autos (AW's) & Hi-Cap

Now ... I been trying to decide on an AK or an AR ... I have an SKS and "enough" soft point 7.62x39 ammo but wondered about them other calibers and I didn't wanna spend a thousand bucks on one seldom used home defense rifle as I enjoy pistols at the range mostly and could use another Glock 26 and a DB9 and a 1911 and
looks like cheaperthandirt is selling AKs fast ... many out of stock http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/ItemList ... catid=7795" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
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Re: Obama Talks Limiting Assault Rifles
Romney will hold with the people that put him in office, just like Obama has. Romney won't do a thing to limit our existing laws, although I don't hold out for him to relax them either.The Mad Moderate wrote:Well I retract my earlier statement about Obama saying he wouldn't use the tragedy to push gun control, now give me a sec while I remove my foot from my mouth.![]()
I really wish he wasn't such a tool. I just wish I could trust Romney with the second amendment, with his history in Mass. I am worried he won't be much better.
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Gun sales and requests for concealed carry license classes are up in hugely significant percentages all over the nation: http://www.ft.com/intl/cms/s/0/ea065f12 ... z21hEctO7a.RPB wrote:sales are going thru the roof on AK-47s just blocks away from the aforementioned theater
http://www.ak47world.com/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;Since AK47World.com is literally just blocks away from the Colorado Theater Shootings in Aurora, Colorado - since Friday we've been affected by all the commotion
NOW our phones & e-mail are being SLAMMED as procrastinators are SLAMMING US as Colorado Gun Sales are up 41% since shootings as mags & ammo sales are also EXPLODING !!!
But you'd BETTER HURRY & GET WHAT YOU NEED NOW (forget Big Screen TVs & Consumer JUNK) as Libs are SCREAMING to BAN AK's, AR's & Hi-Caps Mags/Drums & that New York FOOL Mayor Michael Bloomberg is telling Police to "Go on Strike" until Politicians Ban Semi-autos (AW's) & Hi-Cap
Now ... I been trying to decide on an AK or an AR ... I have an SKS and "enough" soft point 7.62x39 ammo but wondered about them other calibers and I didn't wanna spend a thousand bucks on one seldom used home defense rifle as I enjoy pistols at the range mostly and could use another Glock 26 and a DB9 and a 1911 and
This is huge, and it is a good thing. The sheep are waking up, and the more people have guns, including AK/AR type weapons, the harder it will be for Obama to do anything about it.
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Exactly. Romney's feet will need to be occasionally held to the fire to keep him honest, but he isn't a complete tool. Obama is a nickel-plated tool, all the way down to the bone.OldCannon wrote:Romney will hold with the people that put him in office, just like Obama has. Romney won't do a thing to limit our existing laws, although I don't hold out for him to relax them either.The Mad Moderate wrote:Well I retract my earlier statement about Obama saying he wouldn't use the tragedy to push gun control, now give me a sec while I remove my foot from my mouth.![]()
I really wish he wasn't such a tool. I just wish I could trust Romney with the second amendment, with his history in Mass. I am worried he won't be much better.
“Hard times create strong men. Strong men create good times. Good times create weak men. And, weak men create hard times.”
― G. Michael Hopf, "Those Who Remain"
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heh, I gotta put my credit card in the freezer on ice or something
Folder
forward AND rear grips
http://www.jgsales.com/hungarian-amd-65 ... -3115.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hungarian AMD-65 SA-2000M AK-47 rifle, FEG receiver, TGI import, w/ side folding stock.
1-1961xq
$499.95
Quantity: (Quantity Available: 99+)
same gun
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct446.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
$559.00 $539.00

Tempting ... watched a couple youtube videos on it ... Tempting
Folder
forward AND rear grips
http://www.jgsales.com/hungarian-amd-65 ... -3115.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Hungarian AMD-65 SA-2000M AK-47 rifle, FEG receiver, TGI import, w/ side folding stock.
1-1961xq
$499.95
Quantity: (Quantity Available: 99+)
same gun
http://www.atlanticfirearms.com/storeproduct446.aspx" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
$559.00 $539.00

Tempting ... watched a couple youtube videos on it ... Tempting
I'm no lawyer
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Better that he shows his hand now instead of lying for another three months.
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Mr. President Obama, if you take away "neutered" AKs, then you can't take away the Syrian hunting rifle:

Mr. President Obama do not pretend to be clueless.
More "Syrian" images are here:
http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012 ... leppo?lite" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Note: Stay away from toys.
Real AKs, are not available in US market:


Mr. President Obama do not pretend to be clueless.
More "Syrian" images are here:
http://photoblog.nbcnews.com/_news/2012 ... leppo?lite" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Note: Stay away from toys.
Real AKs, are not available in US market:

Beiruty,
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You know how it is. It's not really about who is the best candidate. It's about who is the least worst. With only two REALISTIC choices to pick from, Romney wins this debate by far against Obama.The Mad Moderate wrote:Well I retract my earlier statement about Obama saying he wouldn't use the tragedy to push gun control, now give me a sec while I remove my foot from my mouth.![]()
I really wish he wasn't such a tool. I just wish I could trust Romney with the second amendment, with his history in Mass. I am worried he won't be much better.
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C-dub wrote:You know how it is. It's not really about who is the best candidate. It's about who is the least worst. With only two REALISTIC choices to pick from, Romney wins this debate by far against Obama.The Mad Moderate wrote:Well I retract my earlier statement about Obama saying he wouldn't use the tragedy to push gun control, now give me a sec while I remove my foot from my mouth.![]()
I really wish he wasn't such a tool. I just wish I could trust Romney with the second amendment, with his history in Mass. I am worried he won't be much better.

That's the same thing I've been saying. And if a President Romney has a Republican Congress, they will be far too busy with other stuff to even think about anything like a gun control bill, not that they'd be inclined to send one to him anyway. He can't sign what doesn't get sent to him...and I'm sure HIS Justice Department will be told to stick to the rulebook.
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Actually I believe that AK-47s belong elsewhere, as our soldiers already carry something else, or is he saying I'm in favor of soldiers opposing ours using AK-47s?Kythas wrote:Here it is. Obama talked of limiting access to "assault rifles" today.
"I believe the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms," Obama said. "But I also believe that a lot of gun owners would agree that AK-47s belong in the hands of soldiers, not on the streets of our cities."
No, Mr. President, a lot of gun owners would not agree with that statement.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07 ... z21h4szWcN
Or does he think that an AK-47 was used in the recent tragedy?
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I have one. They're nice guns...you should go for it.RPB wrote:heh, I gotta put my credit card in the freezer on ice or something
*snip of AMD-65 ads*
Tempting ... watched a couple youtube videos on it ... Tempting

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