BigGuy wrote:OK, Help me out here. I'm not trying to be a smart aleck. I really don't get this. I grew up with guns. Admittedly hunting rifles and shotguns mostly. And no formal training. But you'd get backhanded, or worse yet no longer invited to hunt, if you didn't learn safety to the satisfaction of the old timers. While I've heard about accidents while cleaning a gun in the news, I've never actually known anybody who shot themselves while cleaning a gun. I'm not sure I can figure out how that happens.
The typical scenario that leads to the trigger being pulled on a live round is this:
1. Racks the slide to "clear" the chamber.
2. Drops the mag.
3. Notice the first two steps are the exact reverse of what should be done, and results in a chambered round being left in the gun.
4. Pull the trigger to release the sear.
5. Pull down on the tab to release the slide and remove it.
Note that there are Glocks, Sigmas, and other guns that require the trigger to be pulled to release the sear and allow the gun to be field stripped.
There have been so many ND's resulting from pulling the trigger to field strip that both S&W M&P's and the Ruger SR-series have designed a little pull-down lever to allow field stripping without the trigger being pulled. It is definitely marketed as a safety feature.
I'll also note for the record that a person shooting himself while field stripping a pistol had to have violated at least 3 of the 4 safety rules:
RULE 1 ALL GUNS ARE ALWAYS LOADED
The only exception to this occurs when one has a weapon in his hands and he has personally unloaded it for checking. As soon as he puts it down, Rule 1 applies again.
RULE 2 NEVER LET THE MUZZLE COVER ANYTHING YOU ARE NOT PREPARED TO DESTROY
You may not wish to destroy it, but you must be clear in your mind that you are quite ready to if you let that muzzle cover the target. To allow a firearm to point at another human being is a deadly threat, and should always be treated as such.
RULE 3 KEEP YOUR FINGER OFF THE TRIGGER TIL YOUR SIGHTS ARE ON THE TARGET
This we call the Golden Rule because its violation is responsible for about 80 percent of the firearms disasters we read about.
RULE 4 BE SURE OF YOUR TARGET
My issue with the Glock takedown is it requires pulling the trigger, which is usually a Rule 3 violation unless your "target" is a clearing barrel.