Alpine Shooting Range and shooting question

[puma guy]

Just got back from visiting our daughter and son-in-law at their new house and to bring the grand kids home with us. While we were there he told me he had heard some shooting one morning after moving in and while investigating discovered a shooting range about a mile or so to the NW as the crow flies. Turns out it's Alpine Shooting Range which I know some of you on the forum use. I visited the Alpine website just now to pin point local and they are probably a three minute drive away from their driveway. Any range reports would be appreciated. Also wondering if they can they shoot on their property. They have 5 acres on Bennett Lawson near Gibson Cemetary Rd. They I know the house is not in the city limits of Mansfield, but are there any county restrictions? No plans to do a lot of shooting - just snakes and critters. Thanks for any help.

[daniel2002p]

I go to Alpine quite often. I like the country feel and the range does look old but I like the people shooting there, all very friendly and they respect the range rules.

--Daniel

[steve817]

The few local laws that I know of usually require at least 15 acres before you can shoot and then you still need to take steps to make sure the projectile doesn't leave your property.

[Rex B]

I think that 15-acre limitation applies to hunting.
I live on .86 acres in Tarrant county and can legally shoot on my property. I rarely do, as it agitates one of the neighbors (the one whose dogs bark all the time).

We had a HOA meeting a few years ago when some coyotes were eating some family pets in the neighborhood. A sheriff's deputy was speaking to us and was asked what to do about the coyotes.
"Just shoot 'em".
Lots of dropped jaws and big eyes. A few of us were grinning.

IANAL YMMV etc

[sjfcontrol]

I think this is what you want... (More at the links)

Outside "Municipalities"
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Sec. 235.022. AUTHORITY TO REGULATE. To promote the public safety, the commissioners court of a county by order may prohibit or otherwise regulate the discharge of firearms on lots that are 10 acres or smaller and are located in the unincorporated area of the county in a subdivision.

Added by Acts 1989, 71st Leg., ch. 1, Sec. 55(a), eff. Aug. 28, 1989. Renumbered from Sec. 240.022 by Acts 2001, 77th Leg., ch. 1420, Sec. 12.003(9), eff. Sept. 1, 2001.

Inside "municipalities"
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Sec. 229.002. REGULATION OF DISCHARGE OF WEAPON. A municipality may not apply a regulation relating to the discharge of firearms or other weapons in the extraterritorial jurisdiction of the municipality or in an area annexed by the municipality after September 1, 1981, if the firearm or other weapon is:
(1) a shotgun, air rifle or pistol, BB gun, or bow and arrow discharged:
(A) on a tract of land of 10 acres or more and more than 150 feet from a residence or occupied building located on another property; and
(B) in a manner not reasonably expected to cause a projectile to cross the boundary of the tract; or
(2) a center fire or rim fire rifle or pistol of any caliber discharged:
(A) on a tract of land of 50 acres or more and more than 300 feet from a residence or occupied building located on another property; and
(B) in a manner not reasonably expected to cause a projectile to cross the boundary of the tract.

Added by Acts 2005, 79th Leg., Ch. 18, Sec. 4, eff. May 3, 2005.


Sec. 229.003. REGULATION OF DISCHARGE OF WEAPON BY CERTAIN MUNICIPALITIES. (a) This section applies only to a municipality located wholly or partly in a county:
(1) with a population of 750,000 or more;
(2) in which all or part of a municipality with a population of one million or more is located; and
(3) that is located adjacent to a county with a population of two million or more.
(b) Notwithstanding Section 229.002, a municipality may not apply a regulation relating to the discharge of firearms or other weapons in the extraterritorial jurisdiction of the municipality or in an area annexed by the municipality after September 1, 1981, if the firearm or other weapon is:
(1) a shotgun, air rifle or pistol, BB gun, or bow and arrow discharged:
(A) on a tract of land of 10 acres or more and:
(i) more than 1,000 feet from:
(a) the property line of a public tract of land, generally accessible by the public, that is routinely used for organized sporting or recreational activities or that has permanent recreational facilities or equipment; and
(b) the property line of a school, hospital, or commercial day-care facility;
(ii) more than 600 feet from:
(a) the property line of a residential subdivision; and
(b) the property line of a multifamily residential complex; and
(iii) more than 150 feet from a residence or occupied building located on another property; and
(B) in a manner not reasonably expected to cause a projectile to cross the boundary of the tract;
(2) a center fire or rim fire rifle or pistol of any caliber discharged:
(A) on a tract of land of 50 acres or more and:
(i) more than 1,000 feet from:
(a) the property line of a public tract of land, generally accessible by the public, that is routinely used for organized sporting or recreational activities or that has permanent recreational facilities or equipment; and
(b) the property line of a school, hospital, or commercial day-care facility;
(ii) more than 600 feet from:
(a) the property line of a residential subdivision; and
(b) the property line of a multifamily residential complex; and
(iii) more than 300 feet from a residence or occupied building located on another property; and
(B) in a manner not reasonably expected to cause a projectile to cross the boundary of the tract; or
(3) discharged at a sport shooting range, as defined by Section 250.001, in a manner not reasonably expected to cause a projectile to cross the boundary of a tract of land.

Added by Acts 2009, 81st Leg., R.S., Ch. 1230, Sec. 1, eff. June 19, 2009.
Amended by:
Acts 2011, 82nd Leg., R.S., Ch. 1163, Sec. 81, eff. September 1, 2011.


Sec. 229.004. REGULATION OF DISCHARGE OF WEAPON BY CERTAIN MUNICIPALITIES. (a) This section applies only to a municipality located in a county in which the majority of the population of two or more municipalities with a population of 300,000 or more are located.
(b) Notwithstanding Section 229.002, a municipality may not apply a regulation relating to the discharge of firearms or other weapons in the extraterritorial jurisdiction of the municipality or in an area annexed by the municipality on or before September 1, 1981, if the firearm or other weapon is:
(1) a shotgun, air rifle or pistol, BB gun, or bow and arrow discharged:
(A) on a tract of land of 100 acres or more and more than 150 feet from a residence or occupied building located on another property; and
(B) in a manner not reasonably expected to cause a projectile to cross the boundary of the tract; or
(2) a center fire or rim fire rifle or pistol of any caliber discharged:
(A) on a tract of land of 100 acres or more and more than 300 feet from a residence or occupied building located on another property; and
(B) in a manner not reasonably expected to cause a projectile to cross the boundary of the tract.

Added by Acts 2011, 82nd Leg., R.S., Ch. 306, Sec. 1, eff. June 17, 2011.

[Rex B]

There ya go "may prohibit "

I guess Tarrant County chose not to exercise that option

[Heartland Patriot]

So, after reading the information posted above, I want to know: what is the Texas definition of "subdivision"? Is there a definition or is it whatever a jury might think of in as a subdivision?

[sjfcontrol]

So, after reading the information posted above, I want to know: what is the Texas definition of "subdivision"? Is there a definition or is it whatever a jury might think of in as a subdivision?

A "subdivision" is all or part of a "division". Hope this helps!

(I have no idea. I was wondering about "municipality".)

[puma guy]

So, after reading the information posted above, I want to know: what is the Texas definition of "subdivision"? Is there a definition or is it whatever a jury might think of in as a subdivision?

A "subdivision" is all or part of a "division". Hope this helps!

(I have no idea. I was wondering about "municipality".)

I suppose one could could consider the State of Texas a subdivision of the original territory and Spanish Land Grants subdivisions as well . I read another post here on the forum and it was all over the place, some of the posts were about property nearby. I could never discern a definitive answer. I think 'subdivisions may be the key and it would be a stretch to consider five acres surrounded by 30 acre and 16 acre parcels a "subdivision" The acreage requirement wouldn't apply, but IANAL. There is a different requirement for hunting, 10 acres being the minimum, but that's part of Texas hunting laws. Also the laws prohibit bullets crossing property lines. I am familiar with that and have discussed it with game wardens. I think I will have him call Tarrant Co SO anyway. Thanks to everyone. I hope to be shooting at Alpine next time I visit my daughter.

[tommyg]

I resided in Arlington until last May when my boss made the decision for me to move to Austin
I liked alpine range they have just about everything you will need the range is outdoor
rifle shot gun hand gun I would recomment it