Property Owners' rights vs. Personal Rights

[C-dub]

I was thinking today. Always a dangerous undertaking.

That paper putting up that map of legal gun owners got me started. It was public information and they thought it would be useful for the public to know who had guns. Well, at least that's their excuse. Anyway, it got me to thinking about some other things that would be more useful for me to know if my child were going over to a friend's house. Contagious diseases and things that are protected by law that prevent me knowing such things. There are are OSHA regulations that say I have the right to know about dangerous chemicals and substances in my work environment, but I do not have have the right to know that one of my co-workers has HIV or Hepatitis or any other contagious disease. Even when I worked in a hospital and cared for a person with HIV it was not my right to know that information. If that is not what they were being treated for or was not pertinent to their care I was not allowed to know that little tidbit about that patient. Thus the whole universal precautions thing. If you go about your work assuming that everyone is potentially contagious then you should be fine.

Can a business prohibit someone from entering that has a contagious disease? How would they know? I'm not positive, but I don't think they can prohibit someone like that. That lead to me to wondering why a business can prohibit someone from carrying a concealed handgun in their business. How would they know. Carrying a gun is my right. Yeah, I know in Texas we lost that right with regards to handguns, but we have at least regained the privilege. Is that where the difference lies?

A business also cannot prohibit or deny a disabled person access to their business. So, as many have mentioned, Texas will not trample property owners' right to prohibit someone from carrying a gun onto their business, while others point out that we have recently told businesses that they cannot prohibit people from keeping their guns in their vehicles.

Something else just popped into my head. In Louisianna, IIRC, before entering an individual's residence, you must inform them if your are CCing and get permission to carrying in their home. If Texas is so concerned about property owners' rights, why didn't this make it into the CHL laws?

That's all for today. I'm very curious to hear what you all have to say about this. How far off am I in my thoughts? Way out there or am I on to something?

[2firfun50]

This posting caught my attention because I was having a similar discussion with some friends this weekend. Why is it that a business, open to the public, may effectively ban legally permitted CC? The same business may not refuse service to a laundry list of protected classes. I understand businesses normally closed to the public such as a manufacturing or warehousing facility where only employees are granted unrestricted entry.

Our concensus was that once you open your doors to the public, you give up many rights to say who may/may not enter your business. As long as they conduct themselves in a civil manner, they must be treated as any other customer. I don't see any difference in banning legally permitted CC and banning people with tat's. After all, we were invited in with the big "Open" sign.

[anygunanywhere]

This posting caught my attention because I was having a similar discussion with some friends this weekend. Why is it that a business, open to the public, may effectively ban legally permitted CC? The same business may not refuse service to a laundry list of protected classes. I understand businesses normally closed to the public such as a manufacturing or warehousing facility where only employees are granted unrestricted entry.

Our concensus was that once you open your doors to the public, you give up many rights to say who may/may not enter your business. As long as they conduct themselves in a civil manner, they must be treated as any other customer. I don't see any difference in banning legally permitted CC and banning people with tat's. After all, we were invited in with the big "Open" sign.

This topic has been discussed several times here and like you I have not ever been content with the way businesses that invite the public can claim personal property and deny carry.

The way I figure it is that if it is on my person and not visible to you it is noe of your business because in all actuality your rights stop where my person begins. Essentially this is what Constitutional Carry is all about, IMNSHO.

Anyway, good luck.

Anygunanywhere