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Thought I might have had an answer for you but Too far
away. Sorry.
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As I understand it, each instructor who provides instruction also provides a CHL-100 for that portion. If an instructor is "tag-teaching" with another instructor, they can combine on a single form, and individually certify the hours.

I think the question you're asking is as though students do classroom time with one instructor, and range time with another instructor, possibly at different locations and/or different days. In that case, my understanding is that the classroom instructor would provide a CHL-100 certifying the hours he/she taught (e.g. 8 hours class time) and the range instructor would provide a separate CHL-100 certifying the time he/she taught (e.g. 2 hours range time). The student would submit the two (or possibly more) CHL-100's for a total minimum time of 10 hours.

Although it's rarely done this way, the provisions of the forms and the rules provide for this possibility, and I was always left with the impression that DPS suspected that more instructors would split the time than actually do, or that more instructors would specialize in range vs. classroom instruction in a tag-team basis.

I'll have a serious look at the paperwork and give it more thought, but off the top of my head in my foggy memory, I think that's how it works. It's not a "common" situation, but provisions are clearly there for it...just like the provisions for a student to upgrade from NSA to SA category with just a shooting test.
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We talked about this scenario in our class two weeks ago. You are each going to turn in a CHL-8, and do a CHL-100. Obviously one with "classroom only" and the other with "proficiency only". But you are correct in your statement, the guy doing the range is going to catch a little more of the paperwork. If the students come one at a time he'll end up doing 4 pieces of paper per student....3 CHL-100's and one CHL-8. (400 total per your estimate of 100 in the class) If he holds the 8 waiting for the other shooters to show....it will really slow the application process on the other end. If they could at least go in small groups it would really help the process. If he/she is charging by the head for the range portion, it will be a pain but he/she should be willing to do it. If they agree to do the range portion for free....it will be a recurring pain.



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superchief wrote:wait a minute, there should only be 1 CHL-100 per student. I fill out the top, the shooting guy fills out the bottom. at the end of the exeperience, the student has 1 CHL-100. Thanks for the info that the shooting guy has to fill out a CHL-8 for each person, too.

We were told that most instructors don't like to give out a 100 with a portion of it blank. Integrity issues. It was explained that you would fill out the classroom portion. Mark through the range proficiency portion. The range guy would do the opposite. Mark through the classroom portion and fill out the range only. The student would then submit two 100's to DPS. One with each aspect. Each instructor keeps only their portion of the record.

At least that was the way it was explained. I suspect it could be done your way if you feel comfortable doing it.
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