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I know many here carry an EBR in their vehicle. I've wanted to do so as well but I don't like leaving a rifle with extra mags in my car. Furthermore I like the idea of having a second pistol and some extra mags. Overkill? Probably, maybe, I have no idea. But I've never been hurt by being over prepared. But I have been unprepared and had it bite me in the butt so many times that I have trouble remembering how many times its happened in the last year. I have a brand new car but I still carry a little tool kit. I'm just one of those people that is always weary that nothing will go as planned.

So I know I feel the need to carry all this:

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But that's a lot of stuff to lug around. I mean I can handle the Glock 23 or the Glock 22 but both would be near impossible at the same time without wearing a coat all year round. Also carrying one extra mag is just more extra weight let alone three. Then a wallet, keys, phone, etc. It's a good bit of weight. But we all realize that.

So todayI'm at a local shop and I see this sling bag thing. It looks just like a messenger bag and it is meant to carry an AR folded. You can also carry a pistol is this little chest pouch. It looks tiny but actually is designed to make carrying a full size pistol easy. I check and they are reasonably priced so I buy it. I make sure I can return it if it won't work and head home. Once here I find out it can fit my underfolder AK just fine with a mag inserted. Two extra mags can easily be carried but a mag pouch will be necessary. I don't have a MOLLE mag pouch but a trip to one of the uber tacticool placed tomorrow should remedy that. I think you could fit more mags by the way but it would really add to the weight even more.

The bottom line is that once everything is in it looks like this:

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I forgot to mention that I ride a motorcycle to work often and I carry around a somewhat large Swiss Army laptop bag often. I'd say about 90% of the time during the work week. I also work out in the mornings and then head to work so a backpack of some kind for me is pretty standard. I have 20mm ammo can panniers on both sides of my bike (I ride an XR650L) and my laptop and gym bag fit in them well. However this won't. But it's secure enough I will have no issues riding with it on. It even has elastic keepers to secure the straps so they won't flap around. The other added benefit is that it keeps a pistol easily accessible even with gloves on. The pistol pouch has a strap that comes out of the pouch and then velcros to the chest strap. You can grasp the strap and rip open the zippered pouch very quickly and pistol comes out. This is great since I wear a riding jacket and my IWB is hard to get to with it on.

So tonight I tried it out for the first time and will do more so tomorrow. I didn't do a Wally Walk but I did go to Walgreens to drop off a prescription and then to dinner. On the way I stopped and got my car washed. I took the bag with me and got not one strange look. Just another guy who didn't want to leave his bag in the car. At Walgreens I almost wore it in but decided against it. I wouldn't be long and I wanted to try out storage in the car. I've found the best place to keep it is on the passenger side floorboard of the back seat. It's easy to get in and out and because my car has tinted windows and all black interior it disappears back there. I have a lot of gunlocks and I think I can probably figure out a way to secure it if I'm leaving it in the vehicle for an extended period of time. However if I'm not running in and running out I'll probably just take it with me. Next I went to dinner with my parents at Fleming's in the Woodlands. I valeted and as I got out I popped the trunk and told the guy I wanted to put my bag back there. I paid attention to his reaction upon seeing the bag and there was none. Got out of the restaurant, got my bag and put it in its spot and drove home. Came in and tweaked a few things and watched some movies.

I would take some pictures with it on but the wife is out of town until tomorrow. Once she gets back ill have her take some and I'll post them.

The only cons I see right now are the way that the rifle is secured in the main compartment. It's just with Velcro straps and they are kind of cheap. I plan on replacing them with some snap straps to speed up deploying the rifle. Also the mags will need a pouch as well. The pistol pouch works great and it has a compartment for a water bladder. The padding is good and you don't feel the weight of the rifle and other gear in the strap. Nor pressing against your back. It's only a half a day with it but so far I like it.

So am I over-prepared? Yup. Do I have what is pretty much a murse? Yup again. But I'm trying to be as ready as I can for the unknown. I don't see any harm in that.

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My thought is you are well prepared. Maybe overly so, but........I hope you come along and stop to render aid to me if/when I am under fire! :thumbs2:
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My only comment is I would never leave that bag in the passenger area of the car even for just a minute and I would never leave it in the trunk (or anywhere in the car) if I was valet parking.

There are plenty of thieves who sit around in shopping center parking lots and wait for someone to get out of their car and walk in to a store. They walk by your car and if they see a bag, they break the window and grab it. It's a game for them to see if they get a gym bag full of sweaty clothes, a computer, or in your case a really great goodie bag full of firearms.

I don't trust valets as far as I could throw them...

All that said, nice bunch of toys to haul around with you... :thumbs2:
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We are not in the "walking dead" stage yet. Get a gun safe for your car trunk keep your long rifle there if you want and carry your sidearms anywhere you are legal to be. Some 50rds on you should be enough to get back to the trunk of your car.

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You will definitely not be under-equipped to deal with most situations. You've got more gear than I choose to bring with me on a daily basis...but I have more gear with me on a daily basis than many other people choose to bring with them, right? ;-)

I would be very hesitant to valet park with that assortment of hardware in the trunk - but you may be comfortable doing that. I'd be less hesitant about it if the bag and it's contents were secured in a fashion where the keys that the valet has couldn't give him access.

The only other question to me is this - how confident are you that the safety on the AK can't accidentally disengage while in the bag? I'm perfectly comfortable carrying a properly holsted pistol in condition one, and also I have no issue with a rifle being carried in condition one...but I'm used to doing that in a vehicle mount, on a two-point sling, or in my hands. In my mind, I see the possibility of the AK's safety getting disengaged, and then the potential for something else being carried in there to shift around and pass through the trigger guard....

Maybe I'm stretching here, but I think it's okay to at least ask the question. Definitely looks like a neat bag - and I'm glad that it works well for you in terms of being able to get your Glock out while riding.
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Greg - Mind giving out the make of that sling bag thing (must have some label or something on it). Looks interesting.
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w squared wrote:You will definitely not be under-equipped to deal with most situations. You've got more gear than I choose to bring with me on a daily basis...but I have more gear with me on a daily basis than many other people choose to bring with them, right? ;-)

I would be very hesitant to valet park with that assortment of hardware in the trunk - but you may be comfortable doing that. I'd be less hesitant about it if the bag and it's contents were secured in a fashion where the keys that the valet has couldn't give him access.

The only other question to me is this - how confident are you that the safety on the AK can't accidentally disengage while in the bag? I'm perfectly comfortable carrying a properly holsted pistol in condition one, and also I have no issue with a rifle being carried in condition one...but I'm used to doing that in a vehicle mount, on a two-point sling, or in my hands. In my mind, I see the possibility of the AK's safety getting disengaged, and then the potential for something else being carried in there to shift around and pass through the trigger guard....

Maybe I'm stretching here, but I think it's okay to at least ask the question. Definitely looks like a neat bag - and I'm glad that it works well for you in terms of being able to get your Glock out while riding.
As for AK, keep it with no rd in the chamber, safety off.
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Beiruty wrote:
As for AK, keep it with no rd in the chamber, safety off.
Then my question is answered, and I'd feel completely comfortable with your setup - and I'd imagine that you do as well.
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w squared wrote:
Beiruty wrote:
As for AK, keep it with no rd in the chamber, safety off.
Then my question is answered, and I'd feel completely comfortable with your setup - and I'd imagine that you do as well.
As usually it is the case, long rifle, unless it in combat hands, it is unloaded and safety off. Sidearms holstered are totally different.
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w squared wrote:I would be very hesitant to valet park with that assortment of hardware in the trunk
Based on what I know, I'm very hesitant to valet park under any conditions. I have gone so far as to decline social invitations because the venue did not have self-parking nearby.
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george wrote:What? No sandwich in there?
I'm trying to answer these one at a time. I've been eating a lot of My Fit Foods and it fits fine in one of the external pouches. No sammiches.
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RJGold wrote:My only comment is I would never leave that bag in the passenger area of the car even for just a minute and I would never leave it in the trunk (or anywhere in the car) if I was valet parking.

There are plenty of thieves who sit around in shopping center parking lots and wait for someone to get out of their car and walk in to a store. They walk by your car and if they see a bag, they break the window and grab it. It's a game for them to see if they get a gym bag full of sweaty clothes, a computer, or in your case a really great goodie bag full of firearms.

I don't trust valets as far as I could throw them...

All that said, nice bunch of toys to haul around with you... :thumbs2:
That's why I put it on the floor of the passenger compartment and why I may look into securing the bag to the seat mount.
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Beiruty wrote:We are not in the "walking dead" stage yet. Get a gun safe for your car trunk keep your long rifle there if you want and carry your sidearms anywhere you are legal to be. Some 50rds on you should be enough to get back to the trunk of your car.

Smell the roses, spring is very beautiful in Texas.

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w squared wrote:You will definitely not be under-equipped to deal with most situations. You've got more gear than I choose to bring with me on a daily basis...but I have more gear with me on a daily basis than many other people choose to bring with them, right? ;-)

I would be very hesitant to valet park with that assortment of hardware in the trunk - but you may be comfortable doing that. I'd be less hesitant about it if the bag and it's contents were secured in a fashion where the keys that the valet has couldn't give him access.

The only other question to me is this - how confident are you that the safety on the AK can't accidentally disengage while in the bag? I'm perfectly comfortable carrying a properly holsted pistol in condition one, and also I have no issue with a rifle being carried in condition one...but I'm used to doing that in a vehicle mount, on a two-point sling, or in my hands. In my mind, I see the possibility of the AK's safety getting disengaged, and then the potential for something else being carried in there to shift around and pass through the trigger guard....

Maybe I'm stretching here, but I think it's okay to at least ask the question. Definitely looks like a neat bag - and I'm glad that it works well for you in terms of being able to get your Glock out while riding.
I keep it safety off no round in the chamber.

stash wrote:Greg - Mind giving out the make of that sling bag thing (must have some label or something on it). Looks interesting.
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