Ft Hood Soldier arrested w/ possible landmines, ect

[texanjoker]

Interesting story. I am curious to see the full inventory and to learn why he possessed these items.

On Tuesday, the Copperas Cove Police Department received a call reporting a possible destructive device inside a home in the 400 block of South 7th Street. When police officers arrived, they found various parts that could possibly be used to create explosive devices inside a black gym bag—galvanized metal pipes of varied lengths, metal pipe caps, canisters of Pyrodex powder—and homemade landmines, according to authorities.

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[Robert*PPS]

What a strange story. The article said that the police have texts from the guy to his wife about the bomb components and how to make them? Who texts that to their wife? It's a good this guy did though....I'm sure a tragedy was averted.

[E.Marquez]

Where did you get "possible landmines" from?

I only ask as i don't see it in the media report, nor did I get that in the incident report....

So if you have info on him possessing "landmines" please post the link or cite the reference..

THANKS

[CHLLady]

What a strange story. The article said that the police have texts from the guy to his wife about the bomb components and how to make them? Who texts that to their wife? It's a good this guy did though....I'm sure a tragedy was averted.

It's not unusual if they are mil to mil. Meaning, she's active duty also and could possibly work in bomb disposal or something. She could be a part of the scheme. Maybe they were gonna try and send Hasan to Allah sooner.

[Dave2]

Where did you get "possible landmines" from?

I haven't read the article yet, but I'm pretty sure that some cop or reporter tried to connect some dots once, they've both gotten the idea (from the other) that such talk is expected, and they've been locked in a downward spiral of possibilities ever since.

If I keep watching these cop/trooper shows, one of these days I swear I'm going to hear, "10-35 possible cow riding a motorcycle".

"10-81 copy"

[Pawpaw]

Where did you get "possible landmines" from?

I only ask as i don't see it in the media report, nor did I get that in the incident report....

So if you have info on him possessing "landmines" please post the link or cite the reference..

THANKS

The article has been "updated". Earlier, the list of what was in the gym bag clearly said "land mines".

We all know how the media always tries to get their facts 100% right.

[suthdj]

Where did you get "possible landmines" from?

I only ask as i don't see it in the media report, nor did I get that in the incident report....

So if you have info on him possessing "landmines" please post the link or cite the reference..

THANKS

The article has been "updated". Earlier, the list of what was in the gym bag clearly said "land mines".

We all know how the media always tries to get their facts 100% right.

yep, I read it right after it was posted an saw land mines now it says anti-personnel devices which is same thing.

[E.Marquez]

Where did you get "possible landmines" from?

I only ask as i don't see it in the media report, nor did I get that in the incident report....

So if you have info on him possessing "landmines" please post the link or cite the reference..

THANKS

The article has been "updated". Earlier, the list of what was in the gym bag clearly said "land mines".

We all know how the media always tries to get their facts 100% right.

yep, I read it right after it was posted an saw land mines now it says anti-personnel devices which is same thing.

Thanks for the update and clarification.. Change in the media report makes sense.

Though..... a pipe bomb is not a necessarily a land mine..and in most all cases would not be....
More so when talking about a military member that may have access while deployed to actual military grade landmines (AT, AP, AT/AP)...
So the verbiage in this case is important.... to me at least.

[suthdj]

Where did you get "possible landmines" from?

I only ask as i don't see it in the media report, nor did I get that in the incident report....

So if you have info on him possessing "landmines" please post the link or cite the reference..

THANKS

The article has been "updated". Earlier, the list of what was in the gym bag clearly said "land mines".

We all know how the media always tries to get their facts 100% right.

yep, I read it right after it was posted an saw land mines now it says anti-personnel devices which is same thing.

Thanks for the update and clarification.. Change in the media report makes sense.

Though..... a pipe bomb is not a necessarily a land mine..and in most all cases would not be....
More so when talking about a military member that may have access while deployed to actual military grade landmines (AT, AP, AT/AP)...
So the verbiage in this case is important.... to me at least.

I read it as he had both pipe bombs and AP devices maybe I read wrong.
edit to add:
After thinking about it an AP could also be a pipe bomb with a trip wire or other type of triggering device.

[texanjoker]

Where did you get "possible landmines" from?

I only ask as i don't see it in the media report, nor did I get that in the incident report....

So if you have info on him possessing "landmines" please post the link or cite the reference..

THANKS

Read the quote in my original post ABOVE or below as I copied it for you. It is a direct quote from the news article that I posted. It clearly states "homemade landmines" which is why I referred to possible landmines...

On Tuesday, the Copperas Cove Police Department received a call reporting a possible destructive device inside a home in the 400 block of South 7th Street. When police officers arrived, they found various parts that could possibly be used to create explosive devices inside a black gym bag—galvanized metal pipes of varied lengths, metal pipe caps, canisters of Pyrodex powder—and homemade landmines, according to authorities.

[E.Marquez]

Read the quote in my original post ABOVE

Thanks I did read the words you put in your post,, but not knowing if you copy and pasted, or typed them your self I desired more clarifying info.. so I followed the link you posted, and to my surprise, the article did not say what you had posted.. Nor did the incident report from another source say anything about landmines, So I asked the question..

Now I'm clear,, there were no "landmines" in his possession. But what is now being called "possible bomb-making materials".. yet to be further described.

And of course I have as do many home owners, that are mechanics, and perhaps have an interested in firearms have "possible bomb-making materials" in my garage...... Really.... who doesn't? I doubt there is a forum member here whose house I was given access to, that I could take from it, items when placed in a pile could be described as "possible bomb-making materials" by HLS, or ATF

Could a homemade pipe bomb be used as a "land mine" with a victim operated detonation switch.. absolutely .. Seen it many times.... too many.
Could that experience have been brought home and recreated here in Cove?? Yes it could have..

Just need more info to know what we don't know.
Thanks all for your posts..

[texanjoker]

Read the quote in my original post ABOVE

Thanks I did read the words YOU put in your post,, but not knowing if you copy and pasted, or typed them your self I desired more info.. so i followed the link you posted, and to my surprise, the article did not say what you had posted.. Nor did the incident report from another source say anything about landmines, So I asked the question..

Now I'm clear,, there were no "landmines" in his possession. But what is now being called "possible bomb-making materials".. yet to be further described.

And of course I have as do many home owners, that are mechanics, and perhaps have an interested in firearms have "possible bomb-making materials" in my garage...... Really.... who doesn't? I doubt there is a forum member here whose house I was given access to, that I could take from it, items when placed in a pile could be described as "possible bomb-making materials" by HLS, or ATF

Could a homemade pipe bomb be used as a "land mine" with a victim operated detonation switch.. absolutely .. Seen it many times.... too many.
Could that experience have been brought home and recreated here in Cove?? Yes it could have..

Just need more info to know what we don't know.
Thanks all for your posts..

I am not the liberal media. I don't change the news to benefit my post The story shows it was updated again..interesting read as the investigators think he had the plans for "something violent." They also said he had a homemade anti personnel device among his other items. Glad they stopped him from whatever he may have been planning.

Garthwaite made an initial appearance here in federal court a couple hours ago. He was in his army fatigues and his hands and waist were chained. He answered some of the judge's questions, other than that he remained quiet. According to investigators, he had the plans for something violent.

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At the time, Garthwaite was alone with their son. According to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, investigators located the following items on the property: A gym bag containing eight galvanized metal pipes with galvanized end caps and three canisters of gun powder, a homemade anti-personnel device and the components to manufacture several more anti-personnel devices.

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[DEB]

Read the quote in my original post ABOVE

Thanks I did read the words you put in your post,, but not knowing if you copy and pasted, or typed them your self I desired more clarifying info.. so I followed the link you posted, and to my surprise, the article did not say what you had posted.. Nor did the incident report from another source say anything about landmines, So I asked the question..

Now I'm clear,, there were no "landmines" in his possession. But what is now being called "possible bomb-making materials".. yet to be further described.

And of course I have as do many home owners, that are mechanics, and perhaps have an interested in firearms have "possible bomb-making materials" in my garage...... Really.... who doesn't? I doubt there is a forum member here whose house I was given access to, that I could take from it, items when placed in a pile could be described as "possible bomb-making materials" by HLS, or ATF

Could a homemade pipe bomb be used as a "land mine" with a victim operated detonation switch.. absolutely .. Seen it many times.... too many.
Could that experience have been brought home and recreated here in Cove?? Yes it could have..

Just need more info to know what we don't know.
Thanks all for your posts..

I agree. My friends and I were discussing this very same thing at work after we read the report and now the news. Shoot, except for the cut pipe pieces, I have much the same items at my home. I like shooting Black Powder firearms as well as shotguns. As I was a Combat Engineer in my former life, I also have a copy of the Old FM 5-35, probably even several laying around. Although this now unhappy soldier could probably be guilty of building these explosive devices, it could very well be braggadocio and a spouse fight. Remembering several historical blotters, several soldiers have been outed by mad spouses, one I clearly remember, again Copperas Cove, a soldier was holding some M118 C4 in his freezer. This soldier making these devices at least tells me that he either hasn't had access to Military grade explosives, (due to MOS), or the Military is far better at preventing the loss of explosives. So, I choose the later.