Vehicle Owner Shot by Man Repossessing Truck

[JMod45]

Just saw this article in the local news. Don't have a lot of things happen like this down here.

http://www.kbtx.com/home/headlines/Brya ... 34991.html

I like the last line in the article: "He says guns had been drawn on him and his workers before, but shots were never fired as they'd been able to de-escalate the situation quickly."

That tells me that this is a very level headed guy who had no other choice, exactly what us as CHL's are supposed to be.

[texanjoker]

Will he be fired by his boss for carrying a gun?

[Excaliber]

Will he be fired by his boss for carrying a gun?

Repo work gets dicey on a pretty regular basis.

Many if not most of the repo drivers I've encountered are legally armed with the full knowledge of their company's management.

[OldCannon]

Will he be fired by his boss for carrying a gun?

The set union of "Repo Man" and "Unarmed" is "null."

[Oldgringo]

Apparently the vehicle owner wasn't the vehicle owner?

[VoiceofReason]

Update on the opposite of this situation.

3-8-94 3:30 A.M. Feb. 25 Jerry Casey Jr. shot and killed Tommy Deen Morris with a .30-30 rifle with a telescopic sight.

The police have declined to arrest Mr. Casey, citing a frontier-era law that gives Texans considerable leeway -- at night only, not in daylight -- to kill thieves and intruders.

The authorities here are clearly reluctant to act. The Harris County District Attorney, Johnny B. Holmes Jr., said the matter would simply boil down to whether a grand jury believed that Mr. Casey believed the repo man was an auto thief. Mr. Holmes, who has sent far more murderers to death row than any other prosecutor in the country, defended the Texas law and seemed disinclined to condemn Mr. Casey. http://www.nytimes.com/1994/03/08/us/in ... all&src=pm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I never heard any more after the initial reports. I got curious as to what ever happened on this case so I looked it up.

Has Casey been charged since then?

It seems a whole lot better way would be to get a court order to pick up the car and go to the person’s house with a Sherriff’s Deputy instead of stealing it in the middle of the night.

[VMI77]

Update on the opposite of this situation.

3-8-94 3:30 A.M. Feb. 25 Jerry Casey Jr. shot and killed Tommy Deen Morris with a .30-30 rifle with a telescopic sight.

The police have declined to arrest Mr. Casey, citing a frontier-era law that gives Texans considerable leeway -- at night only, not in daylight -- to kill thieves and intruders.

The authorities here are clearly reluctant to act. The Harris County District Attorney, Johnny B. Holmes Jr., said the matter would simply boil down to whether a grand jury believed that Mr. Casey believed the repo man was an auto thief. Mr. Holmes, who has sent far more murderers to death row than any other prosecutor in the country, defended the Texas law and seemed disinclined to condemn Mr. Casey. http://www.nytimes.com/1994/03/08/us/in ... all&src=pm" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I never heard any more after the initial reports. I got curious as to what ever happened on this case so I looked it up.

Has Casey been charged since then?

It seems a whole lot better way would be to get a court order to pick up the car and go to the person’s house with a Sherriff’s Deputy instead of stealing it in the middle of the night.

John Holmes is a DA? Ha ha ha. Guess he isn't afraid of a hung jury.

[JALLEN]

It seems a whole lot better way would be to get a court order to pick up the car and go to the person’s house with a Sherriff’s Deputy instead of stealing it in the middle of the night.

There aren't enough LEO's to do a tenth of this stuff.

In California before I moved here, I got a judgment to evict a former owner holding over after a foreclosure. The judgment and Writ of Possession went to the county SO which scheduled the eviction for about 2 months out..... booked solid until then, and that is for real property which is a lot less common that repo work on cars.

I would guess that a lot of auto repo work is spur of the moment, when you can locate the car positively, unlike real property which will still be sitting there when you get around to it. The cops could never be that flexible.

[texanjoker]

It seems a whole lot better way would be to get a court order to pick up the car and go to the person’s house with a Sherriff’s Deputy instead of stealing it in the middle of the night.

There aren't enough LEO's to do a tenth of this stuff.

In California before I moved here, I got a judgment to evict a former owner holding over after a foreclosure. The judgment and Writ of Possession went to the county SO which scheduled the eviction for about 2 months out..... booked solid until then, and that is for real property which is a lot less common that repo work on cars.

I would guess that a lot of auto repo work is spur of the moment, when you can locate the car positively, unlike real property which will still be sitting there when you get around to it.

The cops could never be that flexible

.

Nor would we want to. That is a civil area and cars are repo'd daily.

[JALLEN]

It seems a whole lot better way would be to get a court order to pick up the car and go to the person’s house with a Sherriff’s Deputy instead of stealing it in the middle of the night.

There aren't enough LEO's to do a tenth of this stuff.

In California before I moved here, I got a judgment to evict a former owner holding over after a foreclosure. The judgment and Writ of Possession went to the county SO which scheduled the eviction for about 2 months out..... booked solid until then, and that is for real property which is a lot less common that repo work on cars.

I would guess that a lot of auto repo work is spur of the moment, when you can locate the car positively, unlike real property which will still be sitting there when you get around to it.

The cops could never be that flexible

.

Nor would we want to. That is a civil area and cars are repo'd daily.

LEO's enforce civil matters all the time. Court orders, writs, evictions, garnishments, restraining orders are all civil. The volume of auto repos would overwhelm most departments, though.

[ChoqPOC]

I have a question for you all... At what point do you think a the repossession company/employee should just walk away. I agree that he was within his rights to defend himself if he was being assaulted by a vehicle owner; however, at what point should they decide the repossession is not worth it.

[texanjoker]

It seems a whole lot better way would be to get a court order to pick up the car and go to the person’s house with a Sherriff’s Deputy instead of stealing it in the middle of the night.

There aren't enough LEO's to do a tenth of this stuff.

In California before I moved here, I got a judgment to evict a former owner holding over after a foreclosure. The judgment and Writ of Possession went to the county SO which scheduled the eviction for about 2 months out..... booked solid until then, and that is for real property which is a lot less common that repo work on cars.

I would guess that a lot of auto repo work is spur of the moment, when you can locate the car positively, unlike real property which will still be sitting there when you get around to it.

The cops could never be that flexible

.

Nor would we want to. That is a civil area and cars are repo'd daily.

LEO's enforce civil matters all the time. Court orders, writs, evictions, garnishments, restraining orders are all civil. The volume of auto repos would overwhelm most departments, though.

I'm very aware of that as I have served papers, evictions and the other stuff you mention. I was agreeing with you by adding that no leo is going to want to get into the repo game tracking down cars nor be that flexible as you put it.