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WARNING: VERY GRAPHIC IMAGESConservative talk show host and author of Hands Off My Gun: Defeating the Plot to Disarm America Dana Loesch and Texas state representative Jonathan Strickland are among the harassment targets of a gun control group called The Betsy Riot.
Each received an “Christmas card” a disturbing message of violence.
Anyone who has seen wounds like this (I have) knows that these were both most likely self-inflicted shotgun wounds during suicide attempts. They have shotguns in Australia. They have suicides too. The NRA has nothing to do with suicide by shotgun in Australia. The terrible thing is that these kinds of massive wounds are often survivable, so the person ends up with a massive permanent disfigurement that was self inflicted.mojo84 wrote:Looks like this may have originated out of Australia and then the cards mailed from San Antonio. Looks like a coordinated organized effort to intimidate.
If you read the article, you will see where Dana Loesch says her family have received threats and she has an ongoing stalking case.uthornsfan wrote:How is this a threat to anyone?
As dispicable as it may be, this is a first amendment right and it seems silly that people here would upset by anything other than the content.
It is not illegal to send a statment in the mail. They quoted a bible verse and wrote a letter. While unfortunate for the recipients there is nothing to see here other than the spectale of the ignorant and emotional.
The 1st Amendment does not give anyone a right to harass and intimidate another person.uthornsfan wrote:How is this a threat to anyone?
As dispicable as it may be, this is a first amendment right and it seems silly that people here would upset by anything other than the content.
It is not illegal to send a statment in the mail. They quoted a bible verse and wrote a letter. While unfortunate for the recipients there is nothing to see here other than the spectale of the ignorant and emotional.
You may catch some backlash for this, but you are correct. There is no threat of violence in these, only a depiction of what a firearm is capable of doing. What Betsy Riot did here is disgusting, despicable, and hits below the belt. I will also defend their right to be disgusting.uthornsfan wrote:Again, how is this harassment or intimidation?
In this instance alone (do not look at anything else because we have 0 facts about any other letters) how is it harassment? How is this any different than a LDS or Jehovah's Witness coming to your door to tell you that you are living in sin?
Is it poor taste, sure. Is it vulgar, sure. Is it a threat that they are going to do anything to you or your family? In this instance no.
We here are always talking about the left being emotional based and failing to use reason and logic, yet here we are doing the same thing.
This is one of the most absurd comparisons I've seen on the Forum in almost twelve years.uthornsfan wrote:. . . We here are always talking about the left being emotional based and failing to use reason and logic, yet here we are doing the same thing.
I'm sorry you feel this way, but when people start saying things like "On January 21st these cretins may discover that the ability to get away with this kind of behavior has changed." I feel like that is essentially saying its my way or the highway, or something bad is going to happen to you.Charles L. Cotton wrote:This is one of the most absurd comparisons I've seen on the Forum in almost twelve years.uthornsfan wrote:. . . We here are always talking about the left being emotional based and failing to use reason and logic, yet here we are doing the same thing.
Chas.
